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Old 05-15-2002, 01:13 PM   #1
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Megierar's <sp> Final Detailer: when is the car too dirty to use it?

I use the Final Detailer stray in between washes. At what point do you think the car is too dirty to for the spray and using the stray will result in scratches? Thanks.

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Old 05-15-2002, 01:15 PM   #2
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If there are particles larger than a dust speck you need to wash the car.
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Old 05-15-2002, 01:21 PM   #3
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Feel the paint...

if it isn't silky smooth...you man need to wash and wax again...

Check out these guys...they know just about everything when it comes to cleaning cars.

http://www.autopia-carport.com/
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Old 05-15-2002, 01:28 PM   #4
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I use the cali car duster first, then quick detailer..
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Old 05-15-2002, 01:34 PM   #5
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I think that if you did'nt just wash the car just before waxing it then there is a very good chance that you will cause swirls or tiny hairllike scratches all over your finish. There is always going to be some degree of abrasive dirt particles on your paint. All it takes is one drive or a few minutes sitting parked outside.

Therefore, I , being very particular will not wax my car unless I just washed it, and then I immediately pull it into the garage to shield it from dirt particles that are potentially blowing in the wind. Then I proceed to wax it. I've had my car for 2 1/2 years now and the paint looks brand new with no swirls.

By the way, who else has used Zymol concours wax? That stuff is a bitch to put on (have to rub it on with your hands) and take off, but it makes the car look great and it lasts for a long time. The only downside is that it costs $140 for a 9 ounce jar.

I've been hearing good things about a wax called Zaino on this forum. Is it better than Zymol? How much does it cost and where can I buy it? Thanks for your responses.
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Old 05-15-2002, 01:37 PM   #6
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Shoot! Sounds like I screwed my paint this morning then! Agh!

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Old 05-15-2002, 02:36 PM   #7
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Shoot! Sounds like I screwed my paint this morning then! Agh!

If you insist on these in between wash waxings, then be sure to use the least pressure possible when applying and buffing. A good way to tell if you are scratching your finish is to park your car under a good light at night and examine the paint closely. If you have bad scratches it will be as clear as day, but expect to see a few superficial ones. If however, they are excessive, then you need to reevaluate your detailing methods.
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Old 05-15-2002, 02:59 PM   #8
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Unless your car is black or Orient Blue...

or some other really dark color, a Calif. Car Duster before the Quick Detailer is a good idea. Just using a quick detailer on any amount of dust can cause scratches. Just depends on how careful you are. I use the Zaino Z6 Detailer misted on a micro fiber towel and just barely drag across the surface in one direction, front to back. Fold the towel in quarters and flip to a clean area every panel or half of the hood.

I drive my car a lot, 25k/yr, and do mine almost every day to avoid a big build up. If I go more than 2 days between dusting, I will wash.
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Old 05-15-2002, 03:07 PM   #9
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I use the detailer quite a bit, but I am very careful about not applying very much pressure, turning the rag often, and simply knowing the areas that get the most dirty. Also, my car is Titanium Silver so it masks pretty well. My wife has a very high gloss black toyota and I would never use it on her car. I only use it on hers right after washing to remove water spots..
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