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Old 05-08-2009, 10:29 AM   #61
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They have scissor jacks at Northern Tool for only $5.00! I may get one of these to keep in the trunk.



You can order them online at www.Northerntool.com if you're not near a store.
the cheapest i see is 29.99?
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:33 AM   #62
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I used the OEM jack twice before. Once for the front which was not to bad and the other for the rear. The rear was scary, the whole car would shift. I put that jack away and brought out my low-pro jack w/ wheels. I think the main reason for the oem jacks failing is that it is anchored to the ground . The jack needs to have the ability to move with the car. I notice when jacking with the OEM jack, the jack would bend in the direction that the car want to go. (Car is choked and e-brake on level ground) The trick with the OEM jack is to only lift car high enough to remove wheel. Also as you lift the car, make sure that as it gets to the desired lift point that it is straight. If for example it leans left, lower it down and place the base of the jack slightly more to the left and vice versa.


I have learned not to use the OEM jack for my maintenance activities. That thing is scary.
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:32 PM   #63
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Daam, every time i have to use that thing i am scared, emergency, what the f..k was bmw thinking, what if it broke on a lonely road while changing a wheel, that's what i talk about when i say the e46 seems more fragile.
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:53 PM   #64
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You are scaring yourself silly. For wheel changing the OEM jack is perfectly adequate. Even if it failed. The car's weight on the opposite corner would have counter balanced the drop. On the other hand, if you use that jack to lift half of the car rather than just a corner, you are asking for trouble and it will most likely fail.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:16 PM   #65
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You are scaring yourself silly. For wheel changing the OEM jack is perfectly adequate. Even if it failed. The car's weight on the opposite corner would have counter balanced the drop. On the other hand, if you use that jack to lift half of the car rather than just a corner, you are asking for trouble and it will most likely fail.
Strange that you say that, do you own a e46? maybe your car is different but mine has slots (at the four corners only) for fitting the jack in. I totally my be misunderstanding you, [even if it failed. the ....... balance the drop], hmmmm why did all those other cars (in this thread) not balance the drop?

I am totally lost, does anyone understand what that post was saying?
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:21 PM   #66
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Do you think a car's weight dropping on someone's leg would allow him escape unharmed ? If you explain why various posters escaped unharmed, you would have found the answer you seek.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:24 PM   #67
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It seems the jack is using window regulator technology.
Hasn't happened to me yet and I have the original jack. I only had to change the tire ONCE.
But Im feeling scared. I better go grease it.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #68
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i don't trust the jack that came with the car, i bought a 2 tonner jack from autozone.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:37 PM   #69
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I used my jack to change a flat. I had just left I-95 in Delray Beach, FL when I noticed the car riding strangely. Luckily I had just left the highway and was on secondary roads. I pulled into a level parking lot and used the jack to change the tire. The jack sure looked flimsy, but it did the job.

The lug wrench is another story. I tried to get the lugs off with it one time and was unable to do it even with 220 LBS of me applying my full wieght. From the force the metal on the lug wrench twisted so much that the paint cracked and peeled off at the point where it twisted. I refused to keep trying with the useless lug wrench. I had to go to a friends garage and use his impact wrench to remove the lug nuts.

Now, I know when I tighten the lug nuts I can get them off even if it is a couple of years later. But these tires were mounted at a local garage. The moral of the story is never trust a garage to torque your wheels properly. You must INSIST they do not use the impact wrench to put the lugs on.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:57 PM   #70
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of all the cars i have owned, i have never seen a more fragile looking jack, and cars i have owned include three other bmw, nissan, mazda, + more. well thanks to this thread, i will now watch this jack carefully or get another to carry around with me.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:30 PM   #71
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My emergency jack crapped out on me twice out of 3-4 uses. Thank God I wasn't under the car.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:11 PM   #72
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my jack itself never broke, but 2 or 3 times now when i try to jack it up, the ****3r slips and gets jammed all up in my side skirt. i literally have 3 cracks where the jackpads should be because of the stupid thing. the last time, i actually had to go to advance auto parts to buy ANOTHER jack to jack the car up again to remove the OE from the inside of my side skirt. i trashed it after that, i just keep a bottle jack in the trunk in the spare tire
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:08 AM   #74
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has it broke on me? you mean WHEN?

got a flat on the freeway the day i put on my CSLs for the first time ...tried the jack, and the car falls. called roadside assistance, who came and tried for the second time, and it failed again. it worked the third time, and im really tempted to throw that pile of junk out cause its simply weighing down my trunk but i want to get a replacement one first. out of all the things that could fail in our e46s, this is one where all the horror stories you read here are every bit as true as they sound.
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:59 AM   #75
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A tip for anyone who absolutely HAS to use the OEM jack

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Do you think a car's weight dropping on someone's leg would allow him escape unharmed ? If you explain why various posters escaped unharmed, you would have found the answer you seek.
Just wanted to say that GoingNuts is an idiot for saying this...fail...


Anyway, I had 2 instances where the OEM jack screwed me over. If I had not positioned my tire underneath hub assembly, the car would have fallen on my leg. It definitely is not a joke. The problem is that the higher I went the more it would tip over backwards. I had to place the channel locks from the trunk tool kit on the ground first (acting as a makeshift shim) and put the base of the jack over the tool's handle to tilt the jack about 30degrees toward the front of the car. By doing so I was able to raise the car up and towards the front, instead of vertically. Don't use the box-end wrenches, they are too small. The channel-lock's handle is long enough to make the base of the jack more stable.

But for peace of mind, my old Nissan scissor jack fits nicely on the side of the spare wheel in the trunk. I just wrapped the jack and handle in felt to prevent it from scratching my trunk to hell.

It might be a PITA to store a jack like that around, but it could be the difference between being seriously injured and driving home safe.
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Old 05-31-2009, 09:25 AM   #76
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I got a flat this past week. I was lucky to get off the highway.

Got the flat off ... then the jack broke.

Luckily, a good samaritan stopped to help me out. What a freakin' nightmare.

Leave it to the Germans to design a jack so complicated that it breaks when we need it most.

I broke another jack, but it won't fit under the front ... it'll fit the rear for now, but I have a feeling it won't fit with a flat tire.

I just ordered another OEM jack. Between the two jacks, I should be ok for now.

Unreal.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:44 AM   #77
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Yep the 1/2 of the white plastic insert is still stuck in one of the rubber lift caps...
I got a jack (like one for an X3) now in the trunk. Before that, I had kept a full sized hydraulic.

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Old 07-13-2009, 01:34 PM   #78
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Do you think a car's weight dropping on someone's leg would allow him escape unharmed ? If you explain why various posters escaped unharmed, you would have found the answer you seek.
looking for alternative jack stand since i am traveling alot on my car these days and had 1 flat tire.

i couldnt help it but this comment.... I'd be GoingNuts too when the oem jack suddenly moves and drops my car.

lots of post, and probably all lack of common sense.
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:51 PM   #79
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How can so many people be so unaware of common jack safety? It sucks that it broke on you but seriously, get your body parts out from under the car in the first place!!!
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:52 PM   #80
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oem bmw jacks are POS, i used to keep the scissor jack from my 89 corolla in the back, a lot safer.
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