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Old 03-15-2009, 01:58 AM   #1
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What's the best sounding sub setup.

I have a regular old sub amp and box in the trunk. It sounds decent, but when I had the same stuff in my camaro, it sounded 3 times better. I've seen some neat setups out there like the ski pass installs and the guy who had 2 12's on the rear deck, but I wanna know what really sounds the best. What do you guys think.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:25 AM   #2
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:09 AM   #3
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*MY OPINION*

I played around with mine setup for a long time and the best sound/hardest hit, is when I have the subs at the rear most part of the trunk facing forward with my ski port open or back seat down. Now I guess it depends on the type of box and how much air the subs have to play with... but I maybe 15-17 cars behind an officer in traffic and he walked all the back to my car to let me know I was rattling his mirrors. Oops.

2x12" subs with 1000-1400watts (can't remember offhand)
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I added a JL12w7, Alpine PDX1000 to my stock system and sound great to me. If I had a pass through armrest which Im looking for It would really sound good. I sold my 2 Alpine R Types which where really loud to get the 12w7. It sound cleaner and almost as loud.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:03 AM   #5
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For clear concise bass you need to get it in the cabin. Either the rear deck or skipass will work best, or just folding your seats down for a quick fix.
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:27 AM   #6
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It just dosnt seem like the rear deck mounted and the ski pas mounted subs could sound good. Whats really sealing the air up? A poorlu sealed box can make a good sub sound like trash.
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:48 AM   #7
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to make a sub sound "better" im assuming you need it louder?

not the case with me. but kick out your skipass and take out your rear speaks. helps a lot.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:19 AM   #8
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i have my 2x12's RF boxed in the trunk, so far so good, im happy with it.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:52 PM   #9
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to make a sub sound "better" im assuming you need it louder?

not the case with me. but kick out your skipass and take out your rear speaks. helps a lot.
no, i can turn up my amp and make it louder, and no way im takin out the rear speakers. i like my car to sound good.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:01 PM   #10
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no, i can turn up my amp and make it louder, and no way im takin out the rear speakers. i like my car to sound good.
Rear speakers make it louder but make it sound worse in the SQ department. Rear fill is not a part of true SQ systems. As for your sealing question.....if you go skipass or rear deck I would suggest Infinite Baffle which would require you sealing the trunk with dynamat like products (go second skin, is cheaper and just about as good as dynamat extreme) to make a giant box basically.
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exactly^

with subs in the trunk the rear speakers are pointless.. just extra space that make the SQ worse.
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Nice discussion and helpful info guys!
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exactly^

with subs in the trunk the rear speakers are pointless.. just extra space that make the SQ worse.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:36 AM   #14
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When i did my full sound upgrade, the rear speakers weee the very last thing i changed. It made a helluva big differance. My rear speakers r stayi. Right where they are, unless i could relocate them, but im tot up for that type of fab work.
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I took rears Off and the bass was knockin but I lost some vocals so I put one back and bass wasnt that good so I put them both back. Now im trying to get a non fold down rear seat with armrest but having no luck. So im thinking of making a port hole in my rear seat into the trunk. I really dont want to do that but if I cant find the rear seat im going in. Lol.
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I took rears Off and the bass was knockin but I lost some vocals so I put one back and bass wasnt that good so I put them both back. Now im trying to get a non fold down rear seat with armrest but having no luck. So im thinking of making a port hole in my rear seat into the trunk. I really dont want to do that but if I cant find the rear seat im going in. Lol.
Let us know how that works out. I was thinking of doing this but I don't want to screw up my rear seat in the process. Seems like it shouldn't be too hard for a pro to just splice and stitch and kick the skipass plate through... but I don't know if I could (or would) do it myself...
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Best sounding setup...subs facing the rear just like in 99% of all cars with a trunk.

Ski pass and rear deck mounted subs don't take advantage of the corner loading effect. You also mask any mechanical noise from the sub which is helpful with some subs.
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When i did my full sound upgrade, the rear speakers weee the very last thing i changed. It made a helluva big differance. My rear speakers r stayi. Right where they are, unless i could relocate them, but im tot up for that type of fab work.
If this is the case on the vocals, then you dont have a very good sound stage up front, because if you did then the rears wouldnt make much of a difference. To make your system a "good sq" system I would suggest putting in better front speakers.
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im talking about the whole picture, thats like saying if i have good enough front tires, it wouldnt matter it the ones in the rear were totally bald. i have the same speakers all the way around and they each do their part. all together, it sounds good, im just tryin to figure out how to get my sub to sound as good as i know it can. i can get pretty nice sound by folding a seat down, but i dont wanna keep riding around like that, my OCD wont let me. i am really interested in a ski pass setup, i would do one in 2 seconds if i thought it would sound decent, i know that subs operate differently from other speakers though, you cand just hang it somewhere and expect it to thump.
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I made a hole in my rear seat check it out. What do you think. I will tell you how it sounds tommorow. I think Im going to make another hole on top of the one I made.
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