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Old 03-25-2009, 12:40 PM   #21
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I think you southerners need to chill with the guns a bit.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:42 PM   #22
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:44 PM   #23
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If I carried and someone came in the store to rob it, time they take their eyes off of me, I am going to pull and shoot. You never know what that guys true intentions were. Maybe he wanted to come in and kill everyone once he robbed the place, people are ****ing crazy. Good for him, and hope he heals well. Once less worthless POS on the street thanks to him.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:46 PM   #24
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yea this was def not a win. The gun owner was almost shot to death trying to stop a robbery at a burger king. Unless the robber had a gun pointed at the guy then it was unnecessary and stupid. Sad really, its a burger king with what, a couple hundred dollars max in the registers and this loser would have been caught eventually...
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:49 PM   #25
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this loser would have been caught eventually...
At which point the taxpayers would have given him free food, housing, and medical for 1-2 years before releasing him back onto the streets to continue robbing, raping, and generally pillaging society.

I say good f'ing riddance to that low-life peice of trash. We need more vigilante justice like this.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:59 PM   #26
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There are several key indicators to warrant a Self Defense or Pull situation...

A person simply holding a gun doesn't fully qualify
I would think the situation had escalated past some random person "simply" holding a gun.
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:19 PM   #27
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I would think the situation had escalated past some random person "simply" holding a gun.
Maybe at BK ... but not in your hypothetical.. . which is what JonJon was commenting on

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You say you would just start blasting the second he took his eyes off you. Alls I gotta say is you never know peoples intentions, and shouldn't judge too quickly, especially when you're judgement involves such finality

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Old 03-25-2009, 01:20 PM   #28
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:32 PM   #29
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Maybe at BK ... but not in your hypothetical.. . which is what JonJon was commenting on

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You say you would just start blasting the second he took his eyes off you. Alls I gotta say is you never know peoples intentions, and shouldn't judge too quickly, especially when you're judgement involves such finality
I mean it all depends on what exactly happened. If the guy walked around pointing the gun in everyone's face yelling and waving the gun around, yeah. I would pull and shoot.

I mean he did shoot back at the guy, so apparently he wasn't using the gun simply as a scare tactic.
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:37 PM   #30
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haha it's a simple argument man, is that how you defend your side?
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:38 PM   #31
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Robber got what was coming to him.
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I wasnt there... but I dunno if I wouldve pulled my weapon either.
If the customer took a couple shots, it sounds very highly likely that he pulled his gun early.

Customer had the "drop" on the crook, cause his gun was an unknown. If the situation arose where he needed to draw his firearm, he shouldve been able to draw, fire and win that situation without taking any hits himself.

Sounds like he drawed, hesitated because he was just trying to "scare" the bad guy and when the BG fired at him, he returned fire.

If you feel the need to draw, you fire IMMEDIATELY>


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I mean it all depends on what exactly happened. If the guy walked around pointing the gun in everyone's face yelling and waving the gun around, yeah. I would pull and shoot.

I mean he did shoot back at the guy, so apparently he wasn't using the gun simply as a scare tactic.
walking around and yelling isn't a threat, he could just be mentally ill. thats no reason to kill him.

he might have shot back AFTER being shot, so no its not proof.
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walking around and yelling isn't a threat, he could just be mentally ill. thats no reason to kill him.

he might have shot back AFTER being shot, so no its not proof.
So say you are standing in line and you have a concealed permit. Some guy walks in with gun in hand waving it around at you (and your family), yelling at the cashier (and presumably you and your family), and you just ignore it? Or wait until he opens fire on you and your family, risking him taking the life .of your wife, son and/or daughter?

I'm sorry, but I am pulling and shooting as soon as I know I have time to pull and kill. I would much rather shoot and kill some lunatic that is robbing a fast food joint, rather than attend my family member's funeral(s). Action is faster than reaction.

But I respect your opinion (as well as some of the others who cannot carry on a decent conversation), I just see it differently. Who knows who is right, but I REALLY doubt this guy is prosecuted.
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If I carried and someone came in the store to rob it, time they take their eyes off of me, I am going to pull and shoot. You never know what that guys true intentions were. Maybe he wanted to come in and kill everyone once he robbed the place, people are ****ing crazy. Good for him, and hope he heals well. Once less worthless POS on the street thanks to him.
So what if you shoot the guy while he has his gun pointed at someone, and the reflex of you shooting your gun causes him to shoot his gun, blasting whoever he was aiming at. If his gun was not aimed at someone, I agree with you though.
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So what if you shoot the guy while he has his gun pointed at someone, and the reflex of you shooting your gun causes him to shoot his gun, blasting whoever he was aiming at. If his gun was not aimed at someone, I agree with you though.
Well of course. I am not going to try and hit him dead between the eyes with a hostage, but if I felt threatened for my life, and have the chance...he's not leaving the BK Lounge.
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Well of course. I am not going to try and hit him dead between the eyes with a hostage, but if I felt threatened for my life, and have the chance...he's not leaving the BK Lounge.
Right, and I'm not talking about a "movie hostage" situation, but say where you're sitting at your table, he has his back to you, but his gun aimed at the clerk. I dont think you could be 100% sure you could drop him without him getting at least a reactionary shot off.
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Right, and I'm not talking about a "movie hostage" situation, but say where you're sitting at your table, he has his back to you, but his gun aimed at the clerk. I dont think you could be 100% sure you could drop him without him getting at least a reactionary shot off.
Yeah if he had his gun pointed at anyone, there is no way I am even pulling my gun at that point.
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