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Old 05-07-2009, 02:01 PM   #101
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BTW, just to let you all know BMW only garantees 14 flashes on DME. Even thou, you might get the tool to read/write on same DME slot thru OBD; some of you guys might end up locking a DME and .
You know Subaru says the same thing, but it's a bunch of BS. If it's an EEPROM, it should be rated for hundreds of thousands of writes.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:13 AM   #102
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I've got one I could send you with the software.
That sounds pretty interesting. Is this an offer to sell, a temporary loan or loan with option to buy? Also, if you know, who was the manufacturer and/or vendor?
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:06 PM   #103
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Just wanted to express my great interestin this project. Denny I hope things are going smooth with the house and kids, hope to hear good news from you soon. I think everyone on the forum can agree that what you are doing (unlocking the mysteries of the DME) is awesome for those of us who tweak these fantastic cars. Thanks buddy

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Old 05-20-2009, 12:24 AM   #104
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Ok, 1st you need to find out what version of software you have on your MS43. The uploaded file from Denny's car it's Version 430064 & the DatenStand (you can read it at the beginning bytes). Depending on what version you have; data addresses are located differently. So comparo will not always work.
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:19 PM   #105
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so i guess there is nothing like an emulator that can be used for the flashing so that the one time you tune it you dont over flash it. like the 413 dme tuning with chips.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=431228
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=925082

oh I also wonder if the values for the cat efficiency are stored in the hex as well

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Old 05-25-2009, 11:36 PM   #106
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good luck, i always wish some sort of cable/software interface exsisted so i could have my car tuned in real time on the dyno and not have to get a generic flash tune.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:41 PM   #107
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i got the kwp2000 int today and was reading my 328 m52 with a ms 41.1 ecu and it looked like it was working right but the file it saved was only 24kb big that does not seem big enough. the s50 motors i have done in the past have all been 64kb even hondas have 32kb. anyone else get this situation? how large are your files?
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:50 AM   #108
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I dont think the kwp2000 plus will interface with the s50 motors at least I know it wont with the s52, s54 because of the Siemens chip.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:03 PM   #109
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I just got my KWP2000...looking to help anyway i can...

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Old 06-21-2009, 12:38 PM   #110
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You know Subaru says the same thing, but it's a bunch of BS. If it's an EEPROM, it should be rated for hundreds of thousands of writes.
How sure are you of this?

Saintly warned me against flashing it too may times as he had had problems with it bugging out after too many flashes?
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:27 PM   #111
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How sure are you of this?

Saintly warned me against flashing it too may times as he had had problems with it bugging out after too many flashes?
Correct. I have a paper weight Ecu from too many flashes. You can still programme it but not through the OBDII port. You would have to de-soldier chips and make sockets and burn chips. I have the ability to align EWS, but it is a painful process. loading by OBDII is much easier.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:41 PM   #112
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Just wondering if anyone could give me a little help...im looking to take my 323 DME and Flash it all to 330 parameters...I have a KWP200 plus so i have already taken the original flash and i have a copy its 32kb in size...
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:54 AM   #113
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Just wondering if anyone could give me a little help...im looking to take my 323 DME and Flash it all to 330 parameters...I have a KWP200 plus so i have already taken the original flash and i have a copy its 32kb in size...
Why would you want to do that? They're different engines with different ECU's. It's very unlikely that they store their data in the same locations or that the data is even in the same format. This is an extremely risky thing to do with no likely benefit if any.
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:23 AM   #114
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Here are some other links you guys may find useful:

Overview of the OBDII chip:
http://s.scribd.com/doc/487944/OBD-I...hip-Data-Sheet

Open source (free download) software. Works with a serial port, i'm sure you can fake an USB connector (like the KWP2000) to show up in this program somehow...
http://www.obd-2.com/#download


I think that's all you need ? And of course the KWP2000....

Let me know how successful this software is; i'm very interested in this as well.

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Old 06-23-2009, 07:11 AM   #115
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Why would you want to do that? They're different engines with different ECU's. It's very unlikely that they store their data in the same locations or that the data is even in the same format. This is an extremely risky thing to do with no likely benefit if any.
Because i have a 330 motor in there So your telling me that they recreated everything when they designed the 330? that doesn't make sense because the 330 motor runs off the 323 dme one thing i hate about these forums is someone always has to talk about "Risk" did i say in my post im scared to do something? Did i say i just started working on cars yesterday OR did i ask for some help on how to do something. I'm sorry but these BMW forums are always so negative. So to sum that up it would be lots of benefit because then i would be running a 330 with 330 maps vs 330 with 323 maps Anyone with some actual input vs questioning why im doing things your help would be very appreciated!


Eg: Thanks DubVersion I'm going to take a look at that!
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:42 AM   #116
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Here are some other links you guys may find useful:

Overview of the OBDII chip:
http://s.scribd.com/doc/487944/OBD-I...hip-Data-Sheet

Open source (free download) software. Works with a serial port, i'm sure you can fake an USB connector (like the KWP2000) to show up in this program somehow...
http://www.obd-2.com/#download


I think that's all you need ? And of course the KWP2000....

Let me know how successful this software is; i'm very interested in this as well.

greetings,

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Ok so I took a look at that obd-2...that looks like an advanced scanner for fixing engine codes and seeing what the car is doing while connected to the laptop...i need a program that read the maps of my cars dme and then i need a 330 dme map so i can upload it to my ecu...Just to see if it will even work with my KWP2000 ill try and connect it later on today...
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using winols i made new projects for each of the files i had(top being mine) and the bottom two are downloads i found on the net of 330 files...although maybe i need a 330 file from a DME ms52 vs a DME ms53 which those bottom two files came from. Which is also why the look really different...still i find it odd that a 323 dme can run the 330...and perhaps those second files we pulled using a different program because they are much larger at 512kb vs my small 32kb but again they are from the newer dme...anyways hopefully we get this
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #118
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using winols i made new projects for each of the files i had(top being mine) and the bottom two are downloads i found on the net of 330 files...although maybe i need a 330 file from a DME ms52 vs a DME ms53 which those bottom two files came from. Which is also why the look really different...still i find it odd that a 323 dme can run the 330...and perhaps those second files we pulled using a different program because they are much larger at 512kb vs my small 32kb but again they are from the newer dme...anyways hopefully we get this
So how you know what part of the map you are looking at. For example which part of the map is for fuel and which for timing.
I have this as well and my file but don't understand what's what.
I spent hours on it and can not figure out anything.
maybe you would be interested in explaining what part of the map we are looking at.
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Why would you want to do that? They're different engines with different ECU's. It's very unlikely that they store their data in the same locations or that the data is even in the same format. This is an extremely risky thing to do with no likely benefit if any.
Here is a link to a 330 bin file. http://e46.myevilstar.com/5.html hope its usefull.
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:13 AM   #120
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So how you know what part of the map you are looking at. For example which part of the map is for fuel and which for timing.
I have this as well and my file but don't understand what's what.
I spent hours on it and can not figure out anything.
maybe you would be interested in explaining what part of the map we are looking at.
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Sorry Rito...i just started on this stuff so i dont really have idea what part of the maps these are...i still need some moretime

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Here is a link to a 330 bin file. http://e46.myevilstar.com/5.html hope its usefull.
and thanks a lot evilstar...this shows that they are VERY close(323vs330) I just need to figure out whats what and how to start copying the differences over to my map! anyone with that information and we will be on our way very soon!
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