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Professional CD Spec
Hi all.
I have a 2003 320d SE Touring with a Professional CD installed from new. Just wanted to know what the difference was with other BMW units? I have the standard 6-speaker set up,don't even know if I have an amp. I don't have the HK set up- that I do know. Any info would be good. |
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What exactly are you looking for, power ratings? a subjective evaluation of non-amplifier vs. amplified?
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1) How is it different to a Business CD.
2) Is there more to it than just the head unit. |
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Anyone?
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In US, we do not have the non-amplified radios, so I can't comment on it. If you only have sis speakers, my guess is you have a non-amplified radio. Why are you asking, are you looking to upgrade the stock system with a higher-end stock system? - don't waste your money.
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Not being funny but it doesn't matter why - I just ant to know how they differ.
Power/features etc. I'll try some UK forums as you said, lesser known in the US. Regarding upgrades, I'm going to go the Blaupunkt Plug/Play route and drop in a small digital amp with OEM loom. I have a brand new Alpine 2 channel amp but it will be too much hassle to plug into my stock set-up (nor pre-outs for factory) and I don't want to change the HU. |
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You can connect the alpine amp to the oem head unit using an adaptor, regardless of what unit you have.
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Pre-out converter from standard speaker output right?
![]() My Alpine won't fit anywhere other than the loadbay and I'm not into that. Would still like to know about this 'Pro' HU... |
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If you do not have an oem amplifier, pretty much any adapter that can handle speaker-level signals will work. If you do have an oem amplifier, you need an adapter that can take balanced-differential signals.
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And the Prof CD spec?
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I am guessing it is a Business CD with a built in amplifier for powering the speakers. I would guess ~10-15W per channel at the most.
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I am talking about the unit that directly powers speakers. All US cars have an amplifier in the trunk from BMW that powers the speakers.
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My E46 was non HK and had an external amp in the trunk.
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I have a factory Professional unit and no amp.
So how can a 'lesser' head unit, like a Business CD say, power speakers without an amp? |
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I was under the impression that all the BMW stereos have built-in amps. If I remeber correctly the Business units have a 10W per channel built-in amp and the Professional units have 20W per channel built-in amp. I also think the Professional units have a larger/more detailed LCD display. I believe the reason all US spec. cars utilise an external amp in the boot is to power the additional speakers, even on the non-HK units. In the UK all units Business and Professional (non-HiFi and non-H&K) only have 4 mid-bass and 2 tweeters connected which the built-in head unit amp can handle. I think, but not sure about, the all US spec. cars also have an additional 4 mid range speakers, makeing 10 in total compared to our 6, hence the need for the external amp. The HK system has "upgraded" speakers and a sub-woofer fitted. I am sure someone with an HK system and more knowledge of the various BMW audio systems will chip-in to confirm or correct.
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Now we're getting somewhere - this would make sense. My Pro stereo does sound better than my old Business one but not massively so.
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I have the Business CD unit and swaped out the BMW speakers for some half decent Alpine ones. 6.5" 2-way coaxles in the rear deck and 5.1/4" components in the doors. The Alpines have much larger magnets and suck more juice from the already weak built-in amp. Far clearer and richer sound, but I need to crank up the volume knob to get a decent volume level. As such the max volume is now lower but not, that I have ever maxed out the volume anyways. Given the Professional unit has a better and more powerfull built-in Amp it will cope better with decent speakers attached. I also noticed by changing the speakers that the bass gave much crisper thumps. Much improved but a small self powered sub would top it all off nicely, without the need for any great expence.
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All the headunits have built in amplfiers, at the moment my car with the standard hifi system is powered by the Business CD headunit.
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