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Old 04-08-2009, 08:26 AM   #1
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Thumbs down BMW suspended sales of OEM Sirius modules

I've been told by 3 different BMW dealers parts departments, and Jason at Tischer that BMWNA has officially stopped selling OEM Sirius units.


BMW is developing an XM / Sirius unit and is switching sppliers. Those units are supposed to be available in September.

Until then all existing dealer stock will be used for warranty repair only. The price of used Sirius units just skyrocketed.


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84110141981 1st generation requires Y antenna adapter (84110392102) for units without OEM Navigation
84110153365 1st generation requires Y antenna adapter (84110392102) for units with OEM Navigation
65120398140 2nd generation
65120416377 3rd generation sold only with 1 year subscription

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Old 04-08-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
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**Edited**

Yup, supply ran so low that they needed to have more made.....which usually means an increase in cost. Just the way it is sometimes.

And as Tom said below, the only remaining ones are stictly for warranty purposes.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:03 AM   #3
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Yup, supply ran out, so they need to have more made.....which usually means an increase in cost. Just the way it is sometimes.

Evan... my local dealer mentioned the XM / Sirius combo unit and the supplier change as well... Have you heard this also?
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I don't believe they 'ran out'. When you have lots of customers calling and complaining about the lack of adding "Best of XM". Every other car maker this seems to work fine. September is a long way off... sounds like BMW is a little slow!
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:23 AM   #5
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I don't believe they 'ran out'. When you have lots of customers calling and complaining about the lack of adding "Best of XM". Every other car maker this seems to work fine. September is a long way off... sounds like BMW is a little slow!
you can't add the Best of XM to an BMW Sirius unit? Oyyy
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I've been told by 3 different BMW dealers parts departments, and Jason at Tischer that BMWNA has officially stopped selling OEM Sirius units.


BMW is developing an XM / Sirius unit and is switching sppliers. Those units are supposed to be available in September.

Until then all existing dealer stock will be used for warranty repair only. The price of used Sirius units just skyrocketed.


Sirius receiver part numbers for those looking...

84 11 0 141 981 1st generation requires Y antenna adapter (84110392102)
65 12 0 398 140 2nd generation
65 12 0 416 377 3rd generation sold only with 1 year subscription
They didn't run out - there was a parts freeze for unspecified reasons, remaining stock was held onto for warranty purposes.

As soon as we have more info - we'll be letting the forums know. Otherwise - it's XM Direct for now.
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They didn't run out - there was a parts freeze for unspecified reasons, remaining stock was held onto for warranty purposes.

As soon as we have more info - we'll be letting the forums know. Otherwise - it's XM Direct for now.
Tom, do you have any left in existing stock?
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No sir, these were gone some time ago - your only source is used for now.
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So does this mean I may finally be able to have xm on my oem nav in the near future?
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No sir, these were gone some time ago - your only source is used for now.

I searched for about a week... The ONLY thing I could find was a used 1st generation unit (paid $75 for it). Just need to locate a Sirius Y adapter now...
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I searched for about a week... The ONLY thing I could find was a used 1st generation unit (paid $75 for it). Just need to locate a Sirius Y adapter now...
Try to get a 2nd or 3rd Gen unit, the 1st Gen untis were a bit problematic and required the use of a ALC module due to the dual antenna inputs.
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you can't add the Best of XM to an BMW Sirius unit? Oyyy
Sure you can. Just as you can add Best of Sirius to XM receivers. But that is the extent of cross-content. I think BMW is opting for a more universal option (both an XM and Sirius full content receiver). Sirius/XM expects to have similar new radios out this summer and the OE auto market will follow suit.
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Try to get a 2nd or 3rd Gen unit, the 1st Gen untis were a bit problematic and required the use of a ALC module due to the dual antenna inputs.

I did. There weren't any available right now... Finally found the part number of the antenna adapter thingy: 84-11-0-392-102

Actually, ordered that one and a Terk SIR-SP as well... Seeing which one comes in first...

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Sure you can. Just as you can add Best of Sirius to XM receivers. But that is the extent of cross-content. I think BMW is opting for a more universal option (both an XM and Sirius full content receiver). Sirius/XM expects to have similar new radios out this summer and the OE auto market will follow suit.

This is what my dealer told me... I have no idea why they just don't combine the programming fully into a single package.

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Nope. For some reason or another you simply can't


As Tom said the new one is going to be 'both' I would assume.
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Nope. For some reason or another you simply can't


As Tom said the new one is going to be 'both' I would assume.


Actually, I said that first.
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Ironically it was the day that I was about to add Sirius to my X5 that a note came out that dealers are only supposed to use existing inventory to replace units under warranty. They expect a new model which will allow a user to choose a package of combined selections from both Sirius and XM (now that they are one company). I've had an XM subscription for more than 4 years and have had zero problems with my wife's car utilizing the XM Direct kit. Unfortunately, I cant use the same in my X5 because it has Nav, and therefore the XM Direct kit won't work...so I was about to roll over since today I have a "dummy" cassette in the cassette player behind the nav, plus power from a cig lighter outlet, and an antenna magnetically attached to my roof.. so it looks pretty cheesy..BUT on long drives I have to do for work to Richmond, VA from Central NJ, it sure beats searching for FM stations every 30 miles or so..My dealer told me at the 2010 launch event they had for the new 7 series that May 1 is the target date for the new module..so couple of more weeks before they start rolling in..

One final point..the new Sirius/XM is BLEEDING money very quickly, especially since they have stopped installing units in new cars from the factory, plus the general slowdown in new car sales which is where the majority of their revenue comes from.. It may not be wise to buy another 3 year plan as their viability as an going concern is possibly a concern.

In the meantime, I'm going to let the first batch come out and let the "early adopters" try them out before I buy one.. Point zero releases of anything with software is usually got some bugs that didnt get cleaned in pre-production..

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One final point..the new Sirius/XM is BLEEDING money very quickly, especially since they have stopped installing units in new cars from the factory, plus the general slowdown in new car sales which is where the majority of their revenue comes from.. It may not be wise to buy another 3 year plan as their viability as an going concern is possibly a concern.
That's not correct at all. Sirius/Xm radio has forecast positive EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation of assets) of $300 million for the first quarter of 2009, per their earnings conference call in March.

This is the first positive EBITDA in the two companies' history, combined or separate (pre-merger).

The bankruptcy question has been removed off the table for at least 2 years via the $540 million investment by Liberty Media (DirecTV). Also, synergies from the merger of Sirius and XM continue to be realized. In short, they are saving a ton of money by merging and doing away with things that were present in both companies.

I own multiple-thousands of shares of Sirius/XM and follow the company closely.

It's going to be around for quite a while.
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Would there be any benefit to the OEM Sirus/XM unit vs the XM Direct from EAS (which I currently have)?
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This is what my dealer told me... I have no idea why they just don't combine the programming fully into a single package.
This is what I was saying, they are going to introduce a "full programming" OE receiver/NAV in the near future. First I've heard of the launch coinciding with the new 7 release, but I guess its possible. Sirius/XM has been saying summer release for combined radios so I guess thats close enough.

As was said, Best of XM can't be added to BMW Sirius.....yet. Look for a retro module soon after the full content receivers hit the scene. I though you meant regular subscription radios where, of course, you can add cross content such as Best of, ala carte and genre blocks without problems.
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