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Old 02-21-2011, 07:10 AM   #1
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Want longer lasting tire

I drive 20k+ miles a year and I need a tire that can get me closer to 40k than 20k. I have dedicated winter tires/rims but summer tires are just too soft to get highish miles out of. I know I will be giving up performance going to a longer lasting tire like an all season but this is the choice I've made.

Of course I'm considering the Conti DWS and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus but these are Z rated. Any thoughts on a grand touring all season tire like the new Michelin Primacy MXM4, which won a recent Tire Rack test? I drive mostly highway these days and want something quiet, that will last a decent amount of time while giving good responses. I don't want to turn my 3 into a Camry for gods sake but I dont mind giving a up some performance in my daily commute. Besides I have the extra rims and can always mount serious performance tires for a track day.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:55 PM   #2
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Those would probably last you a good while. Just make sure your tires are properly inflated and that you have a good alignment. It sounds like you do if you're getting 20,000 miles out of your tires, but you probably need something with a harder compound if you are wanting to double that. I'm not sure if you'll be able to reach that necessarily but it's worth a shot! Just note that you will lose a bit of performance when going to a harder compound tire.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:11 PM   #3
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Gary...help.

I read the TR test results but how do the Michelin Primacy MXM4s compare to the best Ultra High Performance A/S tires like the Conti DWS or the Pilot Sport A/S? I want something that will last upwards of 40k.

Btw, the X-Ice Xi2 I bot from you in December have been awesome.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:34 AM   #4
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Gary...help.

I read the TR test results but how do the Michelin Primacy MXM4s compare to the best Ultra High Performance A/S tires like the Conti DWS or the Pilot Sport A/S? I want something that will last upwards of 40k.

Btw, the X-Ice Xi2 I bot from you in December have been awesome.
Both are great tires, but in different ways. The Primacy MXV4 would have better snow traction, a softer and quieter ride, and longer wear. The Pilot Sport A/S plus would have the best dry grip, cornering grip and fastest steering response while the DWS will fall in between those two. Expect 50,000 or more of wear out of the MXV4, with closer to 30,000-40,000 miles out of the DWS or Sport A/S plus.


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Gary, did you mean to say MXV4 or MXM4? I assume the new MXM4s are sportier than the MXV4s.
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I love the general exclaim uhp, last a long time and grip very well during dry and wet, will last well over 20k miles with a lot of track racing (wore out mostly due to 5 degree camber, didn't flip the tires), people with vettes barely see wear on them at 10k, they feel that they will last 40k for sure

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Gary, did you mean to say MXV4 or MXM4? I assume the new MXM4s are sportier than the MXV4s.
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Thanks Gary. Do you think those are sporty enough for every day commuting? I have the sport pkg so my thinking is the two together should still provide a decently fun drive while giving long wear and a decent ride.
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Sporty and Primacy should never be used in the same sentence. Conti DWS gets my vote.
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I love the general exclaim uhp, last a long time and grip very well during dry and wet, will last well over 20k miles with a lot of track racing (wore out mostly due to 5 degree camber, didn't flip the tires), people with vettes barely see wear on them at 10k, they feel that they will last 40k for sure

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Sporty and Primacy should never be used in the same sentence. Conti DWS gets my vote.
I know. But in the TR tests using a 328i they look like they handle well.
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I know. But in the TR tests using a 328i they look like they handle well.
They handle well for their specific class. That's a very important distinction.
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I know. I wish TR would do an across class test so we can really see how all these tires match up.
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