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Old 05-04-2009, 12:19 PM   #1
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Retrofit Nav this weekend...

I retrofit OEM Nav in my wife's 2004 325xi this past weekend. Actually, I should say I helped with the retrofit. The real brains behind the operation was Andy, at Bavarian Performance Group in Winchester. We spent the better part of the day working on this.

Bought a complete MKIV DVD-base navigation drive, BM53 radio module and widescreen CD player from a member on here for a good price (came out of a 2005 M3). I wanted to go OEM since I already had OEM Bluetooth, AUX and Sirius in the car, and wanted things to be as easy to use as possible for her...

Anyhow, did the install following these instructions:

OEM instructions:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/nav/NavInstall.pdf

Someone who did the most detailed retrofit instructions ever (these were incredibly useful--especially Part 2):

Part I (ripping apart your car):
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/nav/Ultim...rofitPart1.pdf

Part II (installing everything):
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/nav/Ultim...rofitPart2.pdf


Here are some pics of the dirty work...

Ripping apart the car...






Wiring harness (its a retrofit harness--you're existing speaker wires stay put)


Everything mounted in the trunk:


Final connections to glove box:


All done!

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how hard was moving the HVAC controls down? did the wiring reach easily enough? and does it fit fairly flush?
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BMW sells a bracket to move the HVAC controls, that should be pretty easy actually
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:44 PM   #4
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how hard was moving the HVAC controls down? did the wiring reach easily enough? and does it fit fairly flush?
HVAC relocation is easy. There is an OEM bracket that's about $65 to do it. Looks prefect, fits perfectly flush. That was probably the easiest part of the install.





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Now that i have the Nav screen in... Next project... reverse camera!
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HVAC relocation is easy. There is an OEM bracket that's about $65 to do it. Looks prefect, fits perfectly flush. That was probably the easiest part of the install.




oh, cool. I was also wondering how the button panel would work with something like that, since I've never taken it apart, and I know different cars have different numbers of buttons. I only have DSC and the HK ones. but this is good info to know in case I ever need to take this apart.
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What was the total cost for parts and/or labor, if you don't mind me asking?
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What was the total cost for parts and/or labor, if you don't mind me asking?
I found all of the parts for around a bit more than $1k... Labor was about 6 hours at the shop...

Actually, I then dropped $150 after all that to buy the 2009 maps (my used one came with 2007 maps)

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Actually, I then dropped $150 after all that to buy the 2009 maps (my used one came with 2007 maps)
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job well done, i've always considered doing this




torrents ftw
BMW_North_America_2009.1_HIGH_DVD
thanks...


as for the torrent... nah... The MKIV drive has problems with overheating used burnt DVD's, even using high quality DVD-R's... Either rather not chance ruining a $800 DVD drive over $150... (yes, burnt DVD's have been known to get stuck in the drives and require surgery to remove)... The cost difference to buy a legit disc is so minute that its not worth the risk or headache....
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yeah a friend of mine decided to go legit too, probably for the same reason i suppose

he got his from http://navigationdisk.eu/?p=140
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yeah a friend of mine decided to go legit too, probably for the same reason i suppose

he got his from http://navigationdisk.eu/?p=140
Interesting... any idea what he paid?

http://www.navteq.com/ ...is where I was about to order mine (same price as at the dealer--exact same thing; packaging etc is all BMW's)... when I did a quick ebay search before I pulled the trigger and someone bought the "High" version for their system that needed a "Professional" which meant I got a good deal on a brand new, legit 2009 DVD
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It must be nice to have money.
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Interesting... any idea what he paid?
not sure how much exactly, but if you follow the paypal link on that page, says its listed for $30

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not sure how much exactly, but if you follow the paypal link on that page, says its listed for $30



ha... yeah that can't be legit... Although if you had a professional DVD pressing station like software / hardware manufacturers do, I suppose you could make them cheap if mass producing them...

Commercial CDs and DVDs are pressed on large machines with acid etching in a process similar to that used to manufacture phonograph records. Prices can range from the high 10s of thousands to 100s of thousands of dollars for high-volume systems. All consumer grade CDs and DVDs use a sensitive dye or gel that a laser 'burns' through a clear substrate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R . They are particularly sensitive to UV and heat and the gel layer can quickly lose its stability...
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sna is there any chance the CD player you took out had a mode button?
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sna is there any chance the CD player you took out had a mode button?
sure did... Its up on ebay now...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=280341932132

If you have a pre-2002, you need a $10 antenna adapter, and voila-- Sirius and AUX support (no MP3 as this came from a 2004)...

If you want it Sam, i can give you a good deal on it...


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if his is out of your range, I have a pre-facelift sedan deck, same as that, I can get rid of since I don't need it
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if his is out of your range, I have a pre-facelift sedan deck, same as that, I can get rid of since I don't need it
prefacelift sedan (99-01) did not have MODE button. MODE button came in 2002.

Here is a 99-01 Business CD ("M" does not equal "MODE")
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Damn feedback rating of 474 sna

I was thinking about taking it cause I wanted the MODE button but Im using a DICE in mine so I really don't need the mode button I guess. Good luck with the auction
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