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Old 08-09-2009, 09:48 PM   #21
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I've seen hardened US Marine combat veterans accidently shoot themselves or others more than once. Usually fatique leads to carelessness. They're professionals with the best weapons training in the world, that live with their weapons 24/7 and where safety is stresseed 24/7, but accidents still happen.
Actually, to be honest the Military's idea of firearms safety is pretty lacksidaisical at best. It's actually pretty low and somewhat inadequate considering how many people there are in the military that know very little about firearms. Granted, fatigue can cause serious brain-farts to occur. It's hard to think and react, but often times it heavily boils down to knowledge and common sense.

In the modern firearm arena, we've kind of rethought things. UD=Unintended Discharge. AD=Accidental Discharge. It's never an accident-it's unintended, but not an accident. The gun didn't go off on its own. It's basically about accountability. We try not refer to them as accidental discharges anymore in the competition ring or as firearms/shooting instructors.

Of all the UD's I've ever seen, and had happen in my presence, they've been highly facilitated by lack of firearms knowledge and familiarity. Add to that stress, fatigue and carelessness, and that's where the UD's come in. I've never had a UD in the 11+ years I've been using/carrying firearms professionally, even after 70 hours without sleep. But then and again, I've been hunting and shooting since I was a yout.
Conversely, I once had a very, very smart friend who just wasn't very firearms savvy have 3 UD's in 30 seconds with his M16 (he forgot to remove the magazine ). It happens.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:52 PM   #22
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In order to TRAIN someone else on something.... LEARN it yourself FIRST!

Idiot...

Obviously not a trained, responsible gun owner. Sounds more like a showoff strapper

Hope the cops tested for power on his hands... this sound very suspicious.....
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Once you are in a room where someone has a ND....you're never quite the same. I became uber-paranoid about an unloaded firearm after my friend shot out his roommate's car window.
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Once you are in a room where someone has a ND....you're never quite the same. I became uber-paranoid about an unloaded firearm after my friend shot out his roommate's car window.
Drop the Mag, lock the slide and verify the chamber.
It's not hard?

I think most people forget that releasing the slide CHAMBERS a round...but if you don't know that...you shouldnt handle a gun let alone own one.
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Rule #1....

In order to TRAIN someone else on something.... LEARN it yourself FIRST!

Idiot...

Obviously not a trained, responsible gun owner. Sounds more like a showoff strapper

Hope the cops tested for power on his hands... this sound very suspicious.....


Whenever you have a discharge, there are always questions to be answered in regards to competence, carelessness and intelligence (or lack thereof).
Luckily, in the case of the ATF agent in the video listed (although I could have sworn he was DEA, not ATF), he was fired for his stupidity.
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