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Old 05-23-2009, 09:35 AM   #81
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Also MoterWerkz, Tribal people are not very likely to take you to court haha
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:40 AM   #82
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That is a very unique situation indeed, but I agree with the way you handled that, but I guess we all tend to relate situations to our individual lives. I have a liquor store in a questionable part of town so I am more likely to have some gang bangers come in here and try to rob me at gunpoint that have some tribal people come in with bows and arrows.

I only fire my weapon at the shooting range into targets in front of a berm.
Thanks for understanding.

It's a very unique situation indeed, in urban area, private citizen here is not allowed to operate any handgun. So you won't see me firing warning shot in public to scare everyone off even thought my life is threatened.

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Old 05-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #83
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Thanks for understanding.

It's a very unique situation indeed, in urban area, private citizen here is not allowed to operate any handgun. So you won't see me firing warning shot in public to scare everyone off even thought my life is threatened.

where are you?
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:52 AM   #84
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where are you?
Indonesia.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:54 AM   #85
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Never pull a gun unless you are planning on shooting someone. Repeat this over and over! Those of you that have believe in warning shots probably have not fired a gun much less killed ANYTHING with a gun. A bullet that doesnt have a target endangers us all. Seriously people, leave the warning shots to the actors!
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:57 AM   #86
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Indonesia.
Awesome. So can you possess a rifle? I know you said you can't have a handgun.

If not get a cross bow and put these heads on.

http://www.cabelas.com/hprod-1/0039545.shtml
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Awesome. So can you possess a rifle? I know you said you can't have a handgun.

If not get a cross bow and put these heads on.

http://www.cabelas.com/hprod-1/0039545.shtml
No, I didn't say I can posses a rifle.

In my story, I said the police let me handle their rifle so I can defend myself.

Wow, that head is nasty. I bet it cost more than 1 tribal people's life.
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you really gotta stop using that seatbelt stat as part of your gun debate

guns and seatbelt are way different

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Old 05-23-2009, 04:12 PM   #89
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you really gotta stop using that seatbelt stat as part of your gun debate

guns and seatbelt are way different

just saying
The point of the comment was the thought process and idea behind it, not the actual objects.

Anyone that laughed...obviously doesnt get it.

You don't acquire, purchase, activate, use, etc. something that is meant for protection based on other peoples' experiences or statistics.
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While this may be internalized, it should not be claimed. If you shoot to kill, you are essentially a murderer. The accepted vernacular is "shoot to eliminate the threat". There is a thin line between maiming someone and stopping the threat, or annihilating someone, and stopping the threat. Don't "knee cap" them, because not only is that a very hard region of your target to hit (under stress, and movement), but the BG can still fire at you. Aim for center mass or pelvis. The largest targets on the body. Once you feel the threat is eliminated, you should stop shooting. That point is up to you .

That being said, I have a friend who had an intruder break into his house, he fired a 12ga shell to the BG's chest, and called the cops. The BG got convicted of B&E, got a sh;tload of medical attention, and then SUED my friend for unnecessary use of force (or something along those lines), AND WON . So the phrase "dead men tell no tales" has its place in these debates, but you just need to know your rights.

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You're absolutely right, however, I may have worded it differently than I intended. While you could have every intention to maim or disable, always keep the notion in your head that this person could die. I have never scored as well with my draw and quick fire as I have with being slow and steady, LOL, so that's personal theory.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. Jonjon I appreciate your advice as well but I think you missed my point with your analogy (and I assume you'll tell me that I missed yours). I understand where you're going with it, but no one has turned around and used someone's own seatbelt against them in a crash.

I am well aware of the huge responsibility owning a gun entails. And that's the responsibility I would be taking on if I decide to purchase a gun. But because of that responsibility, I figured I'd ask all the gun owners here how many times they have actually used their gun to protect themselves or someone else. Obviously this would not make up my mind one way or another, but of all the people on here who own guns, it would have been nice to know that it has served its purpose at some point - other than peace of mind. And by that I did not mean by killing someone, but perhaps a burglary or any situation where a gun was an intervening factor precluding serious injury, and but for the gun, serious injury would probably have occured.

That's all.

Again I would never base a decision on a bunch of yesses in a e46 thread alone, but because this is the largest forum of gun owners I know, I thought a quick survey would be helpful.

It seems the answer for the most part is no. What does that mean for me? Not much, but I was curious and now I'm not.

So thanks felllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllas
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Again I would never base a decision on a bunch of yesses in a e46 thread alone, but because this is the largest forum of gun owners I know, I thought a quick survey would be helpful.

It seems the answer for the most part is no. What does that mean for me? Not much, but I was curious and now I'm not.

So thanks felllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllas
I think the most important thing to remember is...

Do not allow your gun to magnify a conflict. You should avoid conflict MORE having a gun not less. It is easy to not back down knowing you are packing, even though it is ALWAYS best to try a defuse a situation.

Being right and killing someone is not better than walking away from a situation with a bruised ego.

If you can not do that, you are not ready for a gun.

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My family would NEVER allow a gun in the house-

I don't think you should own one, unless you're professionally trained to use one, not any average joe

I guess main reason behind my dad going against owning one was because someone he knew who owned a jewelry business was getting robbed once, had about 10k cash on him, once the two dudes were walking out the door with the money, he reached for his gun right when the other guy saw him doing it and shot him to death. basically, he lost his life for some paper. where as the situation could have been handled much better if he didn't attempt to use his gun

I've thought about owning one since I do alot of traveling with cash.. but I don't see it helping me. I'd much rather get robbed for some paper than killing someone/getting killed. there are so many gun laws out there you should be aware of, or else you can get yourself in some major trouble.
That's almost like not buying a car, because you knew someone who got killed in a car crash once....
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If someone breaks into my house with a bow and arrow, I'm runnin, because that's one dysfunctional mother fuxker
And what if it's Jacques Chirac, with a two-handed sword???
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ruined all of grade 8 and 9 for me.

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I've read so many stories along these parameters:
  • criminal is assaulting victim, or about to assault victim
  • friend of victim or bystander has concealed carry permit, unholsters firearm, yells at criminal
  • criminal finds discretion is the better part of crime, and hurries off to find a defenseless victim

So, obviously, firing a warning shot is not always necessary, as merely making the criminal aware that somebody is armed is enough to make him look for another victim that won't fight back (or doesn't have friends or bystanders who would fight back).

Second, I've heard from cops in various places that if someone breaks into your home and you shoot him, make sure he's DEAD before you call the cops ('cause having the dirtbag sue you for protecting yourself from HIS crime is just not acceptable).

Third, if someone breaks into my house, I think the ONLY appropriate place for the warning shot is....right between the eyes.
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