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Old 05-23-2009, 08:43 PM   #1
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Tweeter/Midrange replacement

All, I need some help in picking out some tweeters/midrange speakers for my 01 330ci. I looked at the BSW front midrange/tweeter set and would like to know what other options I have out there...would like to know what other brands did you replace it with and how do you do it?

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Old 05-23-2009, 09:52 PM   #2
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if your willing to go to an aftermarket amp, you have unlimited options. If you want to keep factory amp, go with the BSW as it is plug and play.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:24 AM   #3
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BSW is the only company that makes a drop in replacement for the 2.5" midranges in E46 cars. The tweeters and mid-bass speakers can be sourced from many manufacturers. BSW makes a nice mid-range/tweeter combo with a mounting bracket for E46 coupes.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:39 AM   #4
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I've looked everywhere and nothing else exist for the 2.5 inch midrange. The mid bass is is a 2ohm speaker, and you will never find a speaker of this size and rating either. I presume the BSW mid bass replacement is also 2 ohm???

If you go aftermarket forget the 3 way design they are more trouble tuning than they are worth.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:59 AM   #5
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As others have said, we're the only company that makes a 2.5" midrange replacement for these cars, and we're also the only company with a direct-fit 2.5" midrange / 25mm tweeter combo for the E46 Coupe.

All speakers we sell are impedance matched, so yes, our E46 midbasses are 2 Ohm if you don't have HK, 3 Ohm if you have HK.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:48 AM   #6
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One other option you might consider is looking at home audio drivers to replace your midrange. I found an driver that was pretty much a drop in replacement (correct impedance and power handling) on ebay for about a quarter of what BSW were asking for shipping (to the UK). Sounds good too.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:35 AM   #7
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Home audio drivers? WOW post full of fail......OP BSW charges what they do because of the R&D it took to create the speaker to match FREQUENCIES as well that you will NOT get with any other replacement speaker unless you replace all the speakers.
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:27 PM   #8
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:31 PM   #9
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Cozilla: Thanks for the bump. Was there a particular question you'd like us to answer?
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:49 PM   #10
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yea... when is that sub coming out!??
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:57 PM   #11
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Which subwoofer, and for what vehicle application? Sorry -- we have a lot of products in development!
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:55 AM   #12
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Home audio drivers? WOW post full of fail......OP BSW charges what they do because of the R&D it took to create the speaker to match FREQUENCIES as well that you will NOT get with any other replacement speaker unless you replace all the speakers.
WOW! FREQUENCIES!

They don't match ****, a car's listening environment is terrible no matter what. Besides, high end car audio is composed of Porsches loaded with Bose paper woofer garbage, or Civics with 4 12" subs rattling in the trunk.

BSW is for people who bought their E46 new from the dealer. I on the other hand got my E46 used for $5K from an auto auction, different market segment entirely. My 5.25" and 6.5" woofer replacements were "drop in" (with zipties) and cost a total of $40 for all 4 of them. I have a BA in this bullshit, an Event 5.1 system at home, and Sennheiser HD650s dangling from my neck, I know that there's a time and place for TRUE high fidelity, and a car simply isn't it. I also don't need someone to manufacture speaker brackets and charge me $150 for them.

BMW already took care of the crossovers, doesn't matter what you connect the wires to, a transducer is a transducer. Something resistant to moisture, like a rubber surround and polypropylene cone is all you need for a car. 4ohm works well, matching all speakers doesn't matter, you won't fry anything.

Here's a midrange I just found, bet you anything it'll work just fine, a reviewer even mentions his E36 328i:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1046

After that take out your tweeter, measure the size, and find something with similar dimensions.

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Old 05-12-2010, 02:01 PM   #13
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WOW! FREQUENCIES!

They don't match ****, a car's listening environment is terrible no matter what. Besides, high end car audio is composed of Porsches loaded with Bose paper woofer garbage, or Civics with 4 12" subs rattling in the trunk.

BSW is for people who bought their E46 new from the dealer. I on the other hand got my E46 used for $5K from an auto auction, different market segment entirely. My 5.25" and 6.5" woofer replacements were "drop in" (with zipties) and cost a total of $40 for all 4 of them. I have a BA in this bullshit, an Event 5.1 system at home, and Sennheiser HD650s dangling from my neck, I know that there's a time and place for TRUE high fidelity, and a car simply isn't it. I also don't need someone to manufacture speaker brackets and charge me $150 for them.

BMW already took care of the crossovers, doesn't matter what you connect the wires to, a transducer is a transducer. Something resistant to moisture, like a rubber surround and polypropylene cone is all you need for a car. 4ohm works well, matching all speakers doesn't matter, you won't fry anything.

Here's a midrange I just found, bet you anything it'll work just fine, a reviewer even mentions his E36 328i:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1046

After that take out your tweeter, measure the size, and find something with similar dimensions.
You sound like a cynic with regards to car audio. In many ways, I'll agree -- it's virtually impossible without millions in resources to get the type of audio reproduction that can be achieved in a home environment.

But, it doesn't mean that properly matching sensitivity, impedance, off-axis response, etc. doesn't make a measurable (and audible) difference in sound quality. These things matter, and it's why we take the time and spend the money on the engineering.

You may not agree with the value our products bring, but please, get the facts straight. Customers aren't paying $150 for brackets; they are paying for vehicle-specific, custom built drivers engineered for a specific application and manufactured in small runs. None of which is cheap.

If you're on a budget, hacking something together might be just fine for you -- but if you value your time at all and the integrity of your car, BSW products are a GREAT value.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:40 PM   #14
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Here's a midrange I just found, bet you anything it'll work just fine, a reviewer even mentions his E36 328i:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1046
Nice find, thanks! I'll review after they get here and I install them.
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Nice find, thanks! I'll review after they get here and I install them.
You can also use this as a midrange:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-807

You have to dremel the speaker flange, but it will slide and clip into the bracket. I have this, paired with this as a tweeter:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-865

And this as a woofer:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-372

It sounds amazing, all of the drivers listed get extremely high marks for the range they are used in for this system. I paired it with a sub and amp and it rivals some of my incredibly expensive home audio equipment. (Sonus Faber, etc.)

BSW: I have my on.
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dont listen to these fuQ faces... just go to a junk yard and get a used complete left rear end. i cracked my left rear control arm on the highway because i was driving w/o shocks... lol! ***Was too busy caking on these bitches instead of taking care my car!***
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^ I need a woofer that is aimed at mid-high volumes! otherwise i'd love to listen to your setup.
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^ I need a woofer that is aimed at mid-high volumes! otherwise i'd love to listen to your setup.
What? Are you using the stock amp? I'm confused as to what the issue is, that's all.
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You can also use this as a midrange:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-807

You have to dremel the speaker flange, but it will slide and clip into the bracket. I have this, paired with this as a tweeter:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=264-865

And this as a woofer:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-372

It sounds amazing, all of the drivers listed get extremely high marks for the range they are used in for this system. I paired it with a sub and amp and it rivals some of my incredibly expensive home audio equipment. (Sonus Faber, etc.)

BSW: I have my on.
Sounds great, I think im gonna go with your set up. Are you still using the stock amp on you highs?
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Great input guys, thank you very much!!!

Sorry I didn't reply back sooner but I received my Vifa NE65W-04 2" Full Range Woofer and I've been driving around and enjoying the great new sound!!!

AMAZING difference from the crap HK the car came with.

Installed with ease and only took a few minutes to get the door panel off, and then spent about 15 minutes on the speaker swap, then put it all back together and enjoyed!!!

Here are some photos for comparison.







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Great input guys, thank you very much!!!

Sorry I didn't reply back sooner but I received my Vifa NE65W-04 2" Full Range Woofer and I've been driving around and enjoying the great new sound!!!

AMAZING difference from the crap HK the car came with.

Installed with ease and only took a few minutes to get the door panel off, and then spent about 15 minutes on the speaker swap, then put it all back together and enjoyed!!!

Here are some photos for comparison.







I took your advice and the difference is unbelievable. I still don't understand why people are wasting so much money with BSW. Replacement components at parts-express only ran me 53 plus shipping. If I added tweeters it would have been 83. Parts-express FTW!!!!
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