E46 News: BMW Sub-frame Defect Class Action Lawsuit - Settlement Approved - Updated information - Page 5

Titansilber3 · 06-17-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by donkiman

subframe is to a car as bones are to a body

It was easy to find once I got under there

coco savage · 06-18-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted330

i think its ridiculous that any modified car isnt part of this.

if this damage occurs commonly on non-modified cars, then whether or not the car is modified should have little to do with the cause of the problem.

just got my letter in the mail today

rleecta · 06-19-2009, 09:04 AM

Yikes, look at this tube showing the results of a crack.

armenak · 06-19-2009, 09:51 PM

what if u have a salvage e46....? is that excluded? couse my e46 had this problem!! and i got it fixed with a friend under the table for cash....i have no proof....also i sold the car....anything would help!!!
thanks guys

Ferm3 · 06-19-2009, 10:00 PM

Got my letter today....man that vid is scary

ZimZimma328Ci · 06-19-2009, 11:14 PM

Got my letter today

Glad to see someone is fighting this. Though I never had a problem with it, it seems pretty common.

kosnosferatu · 06-19-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by armenak

what if u have a salvage e46....? is that excluded? couse my e46 had this problem!! and i got it fixed with a friend under the table for cash....i have no proof....also i sold the car....anything would help!!!
thanks guys

errr....i dont think they will go for it... no proof on the car and no receipt of transaction....

khmerspec · 06-19-2009, 11:54 PM

would a bodykit and missing muffler be considered "Modified for racing"?

Steve@ASPTuning · 06-20-2009, 01:03 AM

My god... that video is pretty compelling to cause a class action lawsuit against BMW.
I heard the percentage of BMW's E46's having this issue is around 1%... I don't know if that's true but that subframe may of caused my accident I had two years ago when my driver rear side gave out.

Steve
ASPTuning

socal323 · 06-20-2009, 02:18 AM

Haven't had any problems yet but I just replaced worn out stock struts and shocks with bilsteins so I guess I'm screwed if anything does happen. I only say this because I'm sure they're gonna D.Q. as many people as possible to save a buck or two.

Itzed · 06-20-2009, 04:44 AM

Yikes! After seeing that video it makes me wonder what could they possibly do to fix it?

x13atma17x · 06-21-2009, 02:07 AM

Wow that video is scary...

I got my car lowered w/ H&R Springs & a 19" rims years ago, therefore will not benefit from this then...

josephmech · 06-21-2009, 03:47 AM

That video is a trip i have not heard the noise but i would get my car inspected to be sure. I still think BMW should reinforce everyones cars. Was this due to corrosion to the unibody or something.

magnuzza · 06-21-2009, 06:11 AM

Where exactly should I look for the crack? Is it near the shock?

neilol · 06-21-2009, 07:59 PM

Hmm, I own an 05 325 sport, I've heard a clunking noise from mid/rear whenever I shift hard or push the clutch while backing up fast up a hill (driveway). Always thought it was normal. Troubling. Going to have BMW check it out.

Also, BMW replaced my control arm bushings two times in the past 8 months of having the car. They said they had no idea, perhaps too much "hard breaking". Could this be related?

lacrosseguy017 · 06-22-2009, 07:01 AM

so if i wanted to take my car into the dealership to get checked out, should i bring the letter BMW sent me in order to back up my case that the cost of repairs should be covered by BMW?

bumere46 · 06-22-2009, 08:01 AM

Also, BMW replaced my control arm bushings two times in the past 8 months of having the car. They said they had no idea, perhaps too much "hard breaking". Could this be related?[/QUOTE]

I doubt that this is because of your subframe, my 325 has over 60k, and I am still on factory bushings.

khmerspec · 06-22-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lacrosseguy017

so if i wanted to take my car into the dealership to get checked out, should i bring the letter BMW sent me in order to back up my case that the cost of repairs should be covered by BMW?

This wont help you until the case is settled now.
BMW has claimed to not be a fault, so they are now longer doing freebies to fix.

Estoril-E46 · 06-22-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rleecta

Yikes, look at this tube showing the results of a crack.

Nice video man, your subframe is totally separated. Good luck.

323 Coupe · 06-22-2009, 01:43 PM

My 2000 323ci. Has the identical cracks as pictured in the video. I was wondering if anyone here has had this fixed before. I was wondering what they do to fix? i.e. replacing the chasis or if if they weld a bracket or something.

06-19-2009, 10:00 PM	#85
Ferm3 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,989 My Ride: 2003 Topaz Blue M3 View My Garage	Got my letter today....man that vid is scary __________________

06-19-2009, 11:14 PM	#86
ZimZimma328Ci Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 2,213 My Ride: Mopar View My Garage	Got my letter today Glad to see someone is fighting this. Though I never had a problem with it, it seems pretty common. __________________

06-21-2009, 02:07 AM	#92
x13atma17x Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SoCal - 562 Posts: 645 My Ride: E46 323i & MK6 Jetta View My Garage	Wow that video is scary... I got my car lowered w/ H&R Springs & a 19" rims years ago, therefore will not benefit from this then... __________________ *-omar-* View My Garage for ///Mods

06-22-2009, 07:01 AM	#96
lacrosseguy017 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 485 My Ride: 94 325i full m3 swap View My Garage	so if i wanted to take my car into the dealership to get checked out, should i bring the letter BMW sent me in order to back up my case that the cost of repairs should be covered by BMW? __________________ 1994 325i with full m3 swap from 1995 m3 /// S50 Engine ///Dinan 2 Chip /// CAI /// Front and Rear Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors /// Coilovers /// 8000K Hella Projectors /// 8000K Angel Eyes /// Yellow Fogs

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06-19-2009, 09:04 AM	#83
rleecta Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 8 My Ride: 2002 M3 Convertible View My Garage	Yikes, look at this tube showing the results of a crack.

06-19-2009, 09:51 PM	#84
armenak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: van nuys Posts: 7 My Ride: e46 4 door View My Garage	what if u have a salvage e46....? is that excluded? couse my e46 had this problem!! and i got it fixed with a friend under the table for cash....i have no proof....also i sold the car....anything would help!!! thanks guys

06-19-2009, 11:54 PM	#88
khmerspec Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sacramento, cA Posts: 29 My Ride: '99 328i View My Garage	would a bodykit and missing muffler be considered "Modified for racing"?

06-20-2009, 01:03 AM	#89
Steve@ASPTuning ASPTuning Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 570 My Ride: 01' 320i View My Garage	My god... that video is pretty compelling to cause a class action lawsuit against BMW. I heard the percentage of BMW's E46's having this issue is around 1%... I don't know if that's true but that subframe may of caused my accident I had two years ago when my driver rear side gave out. Steve ASPTuning

06-20-2009, 02:18 AM	#90
socal323 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 21 My Ride: 2008 335xi LOADED View My Garage	Haven't had any problems yet but I just replaced worn out stock struts and shocks with bilsteins so I guess I'm screwed if anything does happen. I only say this because I'm sure they're gonna D.Q. as many people as possible to save a buck or two.

06-20-2009, 04:44 AM	#91
Itzed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 107 My Ride: 2004 325xi View My Garage	Yikes! After seeing that video it makes me wonder what could they possibly do to fix it?

06-21-2009, 03:47 AM	#93
josephmech Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 297 My Ride: 2001 325i sedan 5m View My Garage	That video is a trip i have not heard the noise but i would get my car inspected to be sure. I still think BMW should reinforce everyones cars. Was this due to corrosion to the unibody or something.

06-21-2009, 06:11 AM	#94
magnuzza Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TX Posts: 1,206 My Ride: Black 323i View My Garage	Where exactly should I look for the crack? Is it near the shock?

06-21-2009, 07:59 PM	#95
neilol Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlestown RI Posts: 3 My Ride: 05 325i View My Garage	Hmm, I own an 05 325 sport, I've heard a clunking noise from mid/rear whenever I shift hard or push the clutch while backing up fast up a hill (driveway). Always thought it was normal. Troubling. Going to have BMW check it out. Also, BMW replaced my control arm bushings two times in the past 8 months of having the car. They said they had no idea, perhaps too much "hard breaking". Could this be related?

06-22-2009, 08:01 AM	#97
bumere46 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dunk City, FL Posts: 1,202 My Ride: E30 E92 View My Garage	Also, BMW replaced my control arm bushings two times in the past 8 months of having the car. They said they had no idea, perhaps too much "hard breaking". Could this be related?[/QUOTE] I doubt that this is because of your subframe, my 325 has over 60k, and I am still on factory bushings.

06-22-2009, 01:43 PM	#100
323 Coupe Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: IL Posts: 16 My Ride: 2000 BMW 323ci View My Garage	My 2000 323ci. Has the identical cracks as pictured in the video. I was wondering if anyone here has had this fixed before. I was wondering what they do to fix? i.e. replacing the chasis or if if they weld a bracket or something.