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Old 02-10-2013, 12:41 PM   #321
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Does the gear cause any complications with it?
To the best of my knowledge, only GH even has the capacity to irritate such issues. Test isn't going to ever mess with your vocal chords.
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:44 PM   #322
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To the best of my knowledge, only GH even has the capacity to irritate such issues. Test isn't going to ever mess with your vocal chords.
Ran Growth at 5ius a day and saw no difference. But my fingernails were pretty

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Old 02-10-2013, 01:17 PM   #323
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No difference in your vocal chords or no difference in your physique? If the latter, I'd suggest what you got was heavily diluted. A guy I used to know runs an anti-aging clinic and showed me some industry studies that said the average kit purchased on the street was diluted down to 2-4iu per 10iu vial, topping out at about 8iu in a 10mg vial for the more desirable color tops.
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:51 PM   #324
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No difference in your vocal chords or no difference in your physique? If the latter, I'd suggest what you got was heavily diluted. A guy I used to know runs an anti-aging clinic and showed me some industry studies that said the average kit purchased on the street was diluted down to 2-4iu per 10iu vial, topping out at about 8iu in a 10mg vial for the more desirable color tops.
What do you mean by "color tops"?
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What do you mean by "color tops"?
Different color tops on the bottles are associated with different levels of quality.
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A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:47 PM   #326
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No difference in your vocal chords or no difference in your physique? If the latter, I'd suggest what you got was heavily diluted. A guy I used to know runs an anti-aging clinic and showed me some industry studies that said the average kit purchased on the street was diluted down to 2-4iu per 10iu vial, topping out at about 8iu in a 10mg vial for the more desirable color tops.
Either physique or voice. And that's not exactly true. Different colors are actually associated with the different serums inside. Not all gh is the same. Somatropin, jintropin, hydrotropin, etc. And I've used them all. Best results were from red tops. I've felt it from 10ius. But that's just to expensive.

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Old 02-10-2013, 03:53 PM   #327
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What your friend may have been referring to is shitty china GH which is infact assumed to be less quality. But you will almost solely find that in "Blue Top" GH
While American GH such as Kingtropin is almost always red and usually considered to be better; howerver, fakes can exist.
Truth of the matter is, that when GH is faked it is usually HCG that you get. And a good way to tell if that's what you have is to put some on a pregnancy test. IF it comes up positive, you've been duped.
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Either physique or voice. And that's not exactly true. Different colors are actually associated with the different serums inside. Not all gh is the same. Somatropin, jintropin, hydrotropin, etc. And I've used them all. Best results were from red tops. I've felt it from 10ius. But that's just to expensive.

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I get that - just saying that your 5iu might not have been an actual 5iu (as I've never heard someone say they didn't feel anything off a dose like that unless they got HCG.)
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A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

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Old 02-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #329
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I get that - just saying that your 5iu might not have been an actual 5iu (as I've never heard someone say they didn't feel anything off a dose like that unless they got HCG.)
I felt exactly what a 5iu dose should feel like. Slightly better pumps and lower overall bodyfat. Anybody who told you they felt anything more than that is lying. There is really nothing to be "felt" when using growth. Other than my calves cramping and getting much better pumps and vascularity without any other supplements, that's all that's really to be gained when using growth.
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I get that - just saying that your 5iu might not have been an actual 5iu (as I've never heard someone say they didn't feel anything off a dose like that unless they got HCG.)
In my use of Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green tops, I can assure you that I've got the correct dosage from more than one of them. With some being greater than others. The Blue Tops, were the poorest I will say.
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I felt exactly what a 5iu dose should feel like. Slightly better pumps and lower overall bodyfat. Anybody who told you they felt anything more than that is lying. There is really nothing to be "felt" when using growth. Other than my calves cramping and getting much better pumps and vascularity without any other supplements, that's all that's really to be gained when using growth.
I'm confused - the start of this conversation was that you didn't feel anything on GH except that your fingernails were healthier, and now you're saying you felt better pumps and had lower bodyfat - exactly what you were supposed to feel. Am I missing something?
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing

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There was no complaint whatsoever. You asked if it affected my throat. I said no. As far as physique goes, I don't really care about a slightly lower bf percentage for such a high dollar drug. My only complaint would be price. I'd rather use clen at 40mcg daily and call it good. Hell I'd run hydroxycut before I'd run GH again
The genisis (IMO) was you saing that I got fake GH based on what you thought weren't the same results "You'd heard".
I'm saying that anything you've heard of people running similar doses are lies.
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There was no complaint whatsoever. You asked if it affected my throat. I said no. As far as physique goes, I don't really care about a slightly lower bf percentage for such a high dollar drug. My only complaint would be price. I'd rather use clen at 40mcg daily and call it good. Hell I'd run hydroxycut before I'd run GH again
The genisis (IMO) was you saing that I got fake GH based on what you thought weren't the same results "You'd heard".
I'm saying that anything you've heard of people running similar doses are lies.
I didn't realize you were specifically talking about the vocals. I thought you meant you ran 5iu and had no effects at all. Misunderstanding.

As for what I've heard/read being lies, his study was certainly a bit biased, given that he was in that industry and I believe the study was sponsored by others in the industry, but I have no qualms believing something that sells on the street for hundreds per kit is diluted (or, since we're talking about a powder, not sold in the quantity advertised). There's a lot of profit to be had.
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I didn't realize you were specifically talking about the vocals. I thought you meant you ran 5iu and had no effects at all. Misunderstanding.

As for what I've heard/read being lies, his study was certainly a bit biased, given that he was in that industry and I believe the study was sponsored by others in the industry, but I have no qualms believing something that sells on the street for hundreds per kit is diluted (or, since we're talking about a powder, not sold in the quantity advertised). There's a lot of profit to be had.
Right, it's like saying one is upset because he didn't get "pure" cocaine from his dealer. Ha.
At any rate. GH is the easily the least cost effective supplement available.
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What about this deer antler powder?
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I've been taking the antler liquid for a month. It's garbage. The one I bought anyways. By all means, go waste your money on another similar product that won't do crap.

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I've been taking the antler liquid for a month. It's garbage. The one I bought anyways. By all means, go waste your money on another similar product that won't do crap.

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What about this deer antler powder?
In the area between protein/glutamine/creatine/BCAAs and steroids, it's all worthless, unless you are taking something based on caffeine/arginine...in which case you're paying for a pump (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

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In the area between protein/glutamine/creatine/BCAAs and steroids, it's all worthless, unless you are taking something based on caffeine/arginine...in which case you're paying for a pump (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Eh. I disagree. It all depends in what you're tryibg to do. In terms of muscle building, that about sums it up. But there are plenty of others stimulants, etc. That can and will help you attain other goals

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I think I'm in an "fast muscle growing phase" that happens to me sometimes

Leg day... this felt light. Stuck with rep ranges / weights so I can continue to go up 5 lbs each week for each set.

Squats

Warmup
Foam Roller
135 x 5
135 x 5

Worksets
240 x 5
215 x 6
195 x 7
195 x 8 (felt so light I didn't bother going down, just re-did and added a rep)

I was controlled and explosive for all reps, knees didn't buckle once. Stoked

Romanian Deadlifts
185 x 10
185 x 10
185 x 10

Standing Calf Raises
225 x 15
225 x 15
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