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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 11-05-2009, 12:53 PM   #21
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While 225 front and 255 rear is probably better than 225 all around, 255 all around is better than both. I know 8.5s fit in front just fine, I don't know why BMW insisted on putting 8s in the front.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:26 PM   #22
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square rotatable tires ftw.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:46 PM   #23
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wider rears will increase understeer so I would say you would be better off square in an XI to combat that.. add in spacers if you want staggered look without the increased understeer... just my 2 cents though..
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Old 12-02-2009, 03:21 PM   #24
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I'm running a 18x8.5 (235) / 18x9.5 (265) stagger on my car, it just adds understeer.
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:14 PM   #25
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I know this is totally irrelevant, but I learned recently that the MB C300 4matics run a staggered setup from the factory. 225 fronts and 245 rear. After reading about all the questions about running staggered on the xi's, I was very surprised.

BMW does it also, at least here in Canada. On my xi door jamb, there is an optional size which is 225 front and 245 rear.
On my xi I installed 225 and 255, and can't wait until they wear to install 235 and 265 ...
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:45 PM   #26
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Understeer is awesome!
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:02 PM   #27
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Understeer is awesome!
Since it's possible to be responsible while finding out your car has a little understeer on the way to work every day.

Track cars, weekend canyon toys, and daily drivers all have different purposes. My car is only a DD, so I could care less if wheels that look better add some understeer.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:04 PM   #28
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And you also don't care for lower fuel economy from greater rolling resistance, and lack of the ability to rotate tires? In all honesty, if your not doing it for performance reasons, then why do it?
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:16 PM   #29
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And you also don't care for lower fuel economy from greater rolling resistance, and lack of the ability to rotate tires? In all honesty, if your not doing it for performance reasons, then why do it?
Because it looks cool? If I wanted fuel economy I'd drive my 240sx because it gets 10mpg more than my BMW, despite being quicker. It's surprising some performance guys get caught up over small little things even though we're talking about street cars.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:24 PM   #30
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Because it looks cool? If I wanted fuel economy I'd drive my 240sx because it gets 10mpg more than my BMW, despite being quicker. It's surprising some performance guys get caught up over small little things even though we're talking about street cars.
I know I drive a car that is supposedly meant for people who value performance, comfort and luxury in one package. One thing I refuse to do, is to make my car perform WORSE than it did for the sake of "looking cool"

That is retarded.

I hope your diff blows.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:34 PM   #31
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I know I drive a car that is supposedly meant for people who value performance, comfort and luxury in one package. One thing I refuse to do, is to make my car perform WORSE than it did for the sake of "looking cool"

That is retarded.

I hope your diff blows.
Good luck man, enjoy getting to the grocery store safely knowing you haven't devalued your vehicles handling by putting staggered wheels on it. I think my 235/265 Star Specs might handle a little better than the all weather tires that came on it.

Your response made sense to me when I looked at your post history and saw stuff like this:
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:42 PM   #32
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Good luck man, enjoy getting to the grocery store safely knowing you haven't devalued your vehicles handling by putting staggered wheels on it. I think my 235/265 Star Specs might handle a little better than the all weather tires that came on it.
No **** you douche r!cer, because the Porsche 911 also put down almost 3 times the power of your shitty Xi, and carries most of it's weight in the very rear of the car. Because of this, the car would have a unstable character without the added benefit of extra grip.

But of course, keep making apples to grapefruits comparisons.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:48 PM   #33
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Understeer is awesome!
Iceman00, you should know that understeer is felt when the car is driven at its limit, which is not a great idea to do on public roads.
I, and others, have staggered setups because it fills better the wheelwells and looks better, period. We drive street cars to go to work, not to get the last 1/10th of second on the highway ramp.
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bump it for a recent thread asking this question.
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:09 PM   #35
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10 months later since i posted this thread and anothe 10k miles on my dd 330xi and no issues with staggered rims!!!!
i run this setup for 15k miles so far with no issues. i have a mild drop. h&r springs on stock shocks
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Old 04-13-2011, 03:27 PM   #36
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Staggered here too, used the tires off my E34 540i, which were 225 front, 255 rear. They are about 1% different which is 100% acceptable. I have run this exact setup, staggered & lowered with H7R + Bilstein sport since I bought the car with 50k miles in 2005. So, 6 years and 50k miles of my own on the car, 0 problems in relation to the tires.
Understeer is not an issue, it is minimal and either way, I find the car very predictable in corners.

******* Xi Sport Package came WITH staggered wheels in Canada. Canada always has a slightly different package on some models, my car was not bought with sport pack or staggered wheels, but the wheels I bought are the exact "M" Sport wheels that the 330Xi Sport Package came with.
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Old 04-13-2011, 03:34 PM   #37
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BTW, you clowns telling everyone the diff will blow, get a grip and chill out!
Just because YOU don't get it, does NOT make it wrong.
Canada SELLS Xi cars with staggered wheels, END of story!

With the CORRECT sizes, there is NO problem. However, putting brand new fronts with worn out rears could press the issue - all 4 tires should be changed at the same time and the diameter % will be minimal - WELL withing tolerated specs.

Would I suggest staggered as what to buy, no, only because of inability to rotate. NOT because it will damage anything.
As I said, I already had the M Sport wheels & tires, they just happened to be the right sizes otherwise I would have bought a square setup, just to make life easier.
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Old 04-13-2011, 03:50 PM   #38
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Tire size: 225/45-17 --------- 255/40-17

Diameter: 634 mm (25'') ------- 636 mm (25'')
Difference: 2 mm (0.3%) taller. <-------------------- 0.3% (3% is the limit, 1% is ideal - mine are at 0.3%!!)


Circumference 1991 mm (78.4'') - 1997 mm (78.6'')
Revs per mile 808.4 - 805.9

See for yourselves: http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:04 PM   #39
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Staggered setup will actually improve handling on an xi . . .if you put the fat tires up front!

Seriously though, it makes zero sense to put a staggered setup on an xi.

Sharkman- your car would be better if it had a square setup. It would be faster if you had lighter rear wheels, and it would handle better at the limit with less understeer.
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If I was tracking the car I would care, but as a DD it makes no difference. I think we can all agree on that.
All I care about is not having mechanical problems, as I said, I already had these wheels, I would not have bought them on purpose, but the fact remains, NO damage will be done. None, zero, nada.

"Better" is a personal opinion. My rear wheels & tires are about 3 lbs heavier than the front, is that really an issue? I don't drive at the limit (does anyone?), so it just isn't an issue. Having a bigger engine will also make my car handle differently than yours, as I steer with the throttle as much as the steering wheel, any understeer is easily adjusted.
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