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Old 07-31-2009, 03:46 PM   #1
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Thinking of selling my '06 Civic for used e46

Hello all,

I'm seriously thinking about selling my '06 Honda Civic EX and buying a 2002 or newer e46. I just bought my Civic last January for $16,000 used, with 32k miles on it. It now has about 39k miles on it and has already been back to the dealer 3 times for front end fixes. This is why I haven't been happy with the car, because first the water pump went out, then there was some rattling/tapping noises coming from the front end, which turned out to be the "bumpstop". And now the latest problem which I got fixed, was another rattling noise coming from the front end when turning the steering wheel. Luckily the car is under warranty, but I still haven't been happy with the car because of these problems. I would also like more horsepower.

I was thinking about getting a Civic Si. But for that same price, I can get a used BMW 3-series which will be a better made car than Honda and more fun to drive.

I'm currently a college student, living at home with no bills except a car payment and gas. My current monthly payment is $227 for my Civic.

So, I am asking for some advice from people here who own e46's on whether this would be a good idea to do. What have the maintenance costs been like on your cars? I would like to get a manual transmission, which will hopefully help keep maintenance costs down. It seems like the maintenance costs for a 3-series would be about the same as a Honda, just with a little more cost on gas, right?

Thanks for the advice.

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Old 07-31-2009, 03:51 PM   #2
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Keep the civic. Whatever you pay paying for repairs on a Honda, square that and thats your bill for E46 service. BMW is a nicer car, handles better, has more prestige...but will never cost less to maintain than a Honda...
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:53 PM   #3
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But how often do repairs come up compared to a Honda?
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:11 PM   #4
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It all depends on the area that you live in, how you drive the car, condition of roads, and how "well" the car was serviced last time it was taking to a shop for repairs.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:20 PM   #5
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ive been thinking about getting rid of mine for a newer si.
my car hasnt exactly been UNreliable, its just been troublesome. there are some things broken on my car right now that i cant afford to fix, like the cooling fan for example. i would, however, think that a newer model (>02) would have less problems, seeing as how its newer, and BMW fixed a lot of things that were wrong with the earlier 3er.
Also i think insurance would be a lot more than it would on a civic.

and to be completley honest, ive been driving my sisters 02 civic coupe for the past couple weeks, and the driving experience isnt that much different. sure my car has more refinment and finese, and the prestige of the BMWness. but when it comes down to it, its just a car.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM   #6
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Cool, thank you guts so much for the honest info! I was thinking that an '02 or newer e46 would be cheaper to buy than a newer Si, but I'm not sure about how much maintenance would be required and how often for the BMW.

I think I'll go test drive more Si's now. Maybe one with navigation...
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:29 PM   #7
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Its funny that u posted that cause im new here but i went through the same scenario. i actually had the 07 Si. don't get me wrong, i love the car, but there is something about that year of BMW where the car is just perfect in my opinion. leather, 6 cylinder, stylish looks. it luxury. just in my opinion... the repairs are more, but for me, its totally worth it.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:27 PM   #8
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honda is a nice car, but since i own my bmw, i don't like to drive any car but bmw. i just like the way it looks, handles and luxury.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:28 PM   #9
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Look at things like the inspection packages. Inspection II at the dealer is $800 if I'm not mistaken. You also need to replace brake pads (and rotors) a lot more often (and you'll definitely be replacing tires a lot if you drive like I do).

If you can stomach the costs (pick a mileage and factor in all of the service from then until you graduate; also, think about replacing the oil at least twice as often as BMW says) then go for it. The BMW is a lot more fun than most Civics.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:09 AM   #10
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Update: I went to show my car to someone who was interested in buying it yesterday. Before I showed it, I noticed that the air conditioning wasn't blowing cold air! When the stupid guys at my local Honda dealership replaced the water pump they re-bolted the engine block mount incorrectly and it rubbed against the high pressure side of the AC line. There is a very noticeable notch where the mount rubbed it; even I, a non mechanic, noticed it and had to point it out to the service tech.

Today when I took it in to be fixed, from the same idiots, they told me that the same mechanic that worked on the car would be working on it again. I decided to take my car to another Honda dealership; hopefully they will fix the other dealers screw up.

The people who were interested in my car unfortunately noticed that the air conditioner wasn't working. They offered $1,000 less than what I was asking for and than what it's worth, I didn't take it. I have the patience to wait for somewhere around what I'm asking for which is $14,900.

I just got an email from someone wanting to look at my civic tomorrow. Unfortunately it's in the shop because of the f***kers at the dealership that screwed it up the first time. I don't know yet when I'll have it back.

I think I've made up my mind. I'm going to sell my Honda Civic and then save up as much money as I can in a year or so for a good down payment on a low mileage, 2003+ 330Ci.

My dad is finally starting to look around for 3-series, whereas before the last couple of issues with my Civic, he kept saying that a 3-series would be too expensive.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:55 AM   #11
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I sold my 98 civic after i got my bimmer and mann do I regret selling it!
The thought of it makes me wanna cry.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:43 AM   #12
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I sold my 98 civic after i got my bimmer and mann do I regret selling it!
The thought of it makes me wanna cry.
Why is that?
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:48 AM   #13
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i'd go for the bmw. but since you're gonna get a used one, check to make sure the it's in really good condition. otherwise the maintenance cost is going to be rather expensive. other than that, if you take care of it real well, it can be just like any other reliable car. the only downside is each time something happens, it's expensive. if you can keep it from happening too often, then you'll be fine.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:57 AM   #14
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Old 08-30-2009, 01:10 PM   #16
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My friggin car gives me too many problems!
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