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Old 07-11-2010, 10:01 PM   #21
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Great post!! If anyone is looking for 870 parts,service,or a complete firearm check out www.aiptactical.com. JD is a vet & a good friend but he is one of the best 870 smiths in the states.He only sells,& services Remington 870s.Nuf said! Doug out
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:23 AM   #22
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Nice write-up! I went with the Home Protection route for my shotgun purchase.

I still have yet to mod out my Benelli M1014 (it's the limited edition model) but now this thread has me itching to research again...lol. I have only put about 200 rounds through it. Mine also has the original tactical "collapsible" but CA disabled stock.

I'm looking to grab a Brugger & Thomet quad rail handguard...
A vertical foregrip...(haven't "feel" tested any yet)
A reflex sight of some kind...(No idea on this yet.)
Still on the fence about tactical light or not.

This is the kind of set-up I want, but a simpler reflex site.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:49 AM   #23
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That Brugger & Thomet forend looks pretty nice. I have a FAB Defense polymer rail system on my Benelli, and I hate it. It's kind of a cheap feel, despite costing $100. That B&G looks a lot more sturdy and solid.

I will be dumping my FAB Defense rail for the SureFire M80 rail:








As for a vertical grip, be sure to test one before you buy one. Find someone you know who has one and borrow it. I'm usually not a big advocate of vertical grips on shotguns, and I think they tend to put the guns off-balance. If you do get one, consider looking at the mini/short vertical grips. Also consider the Magpul AFG.
As for a weapon light, DO IT. For home defense, nothing sucks worse than trying to hold a long gun and work a handheld flashlight. You can get a picatinny mount and a cheap SureFire G2 for under $100. Also consider getting some Meprolight Tritium sights for the gun.
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:34 PM   #24
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I want the foregrip because if the shit hits the fan and I'm in CQB, I want something else sturdy to hold onto if I have to use the weapon to strike with or to help protect against being disarmed. I'm not going to be using it to shoot anything but intruders at CQB so the balance issue doesn't bother me.
I wouldn't get one on a pump...those are a little dumb looking.

I'll check out that surefire grip too.
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Old 08-26-2010, 06:15 AM   #25
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Here's another rail systems for the Benelli M4/M1014 I found.
Side Armor Mod 2 Benelli M4 Rail System Sidearmor


And a kinda cool side by side tactical defense shotty, heh.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:05 PM   #26
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MOA for a Shotgun reflex sight? 8.0?
Trijicon RMR leading the choices at the moment.
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The RMR is a great sight. I really like the mini red dot sights for shotgun usage. I had a Trijicon MS03 red dot on my M4 for a short time, and it wasn't bad. I would personally consider the dual-illuminated RMR, as no batteries are needed. Bigger is better for a shotgun. 9MOA or larger. The standard RMR is great too, and 8MOA is very fitting.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:30 PM   #28
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Hey guys,

I got in on the Big 5 deal on the Mossberg 500 with the 18.8 and 28 inch barrel. This is my 1st shotgun and I'll be using it for clay shooting as well as home defense. Can anyone recommend an online source to buy shells? I'm thinking the safest bet is to load birdshot for home defense but is there a certain brand or type of birdshot I should look for? Also, where can I find some accessories for the Mossberg like a strap for the pump and a shell holder. Sorry for the noob questions.

Edit- I am in California as well so Im not too sure about the home laws.

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Read through these previous threads and you can get an idea of ammunition thoughts.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...4&highlight=vp

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=754429


Basically, with a shotgun you should not be using standard bird shot. Bird shot is too small, ricochets, has poor penetration, and is really not ideal for home defense. It's capable if it's an emergency and you have no other option, but not ideal. If you use non-buckshot rounds, the only rounds you should be considering are BBB, T or F shot. If you use those, you should be using high-density loads like Hevi-Shot, Hevi-Steel, Tunsgten, Bismuth, or Federal's BlackCloud steel. Don't use regular steel.
It is more ideal to actually use 4Buck or 00Buck shot with an open choke, but BBB, T or F shot can do some serious damage as well and will spread out faster than 4Buck or 00Buck. Ideally, you should consider using 00Buck since it will have the best penetration and sheer blunt-force trauma and hydrostatic shock.
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i have always been fascinated about hammerless sawed-off shot guns, only place i have seen them are in movies, based on some small research i did, i found out that they are illegal to possess unless its least 18 inches in length, My question, are they legal in any state or city as i have heard that "SBRs" can be legal with an ATF tax stamp depending on where you live ? has anyone ever had any experience with these firearms? Do they make good for personal protection ? i read the scatter makes them useless beyond point blank ranges because their accuracy and effectiveness essentially disappear with the shortest barrels, is that any true? and lastly who here has tried the Taurus the combination pistol/shotgun any opinions ? do they make good for personal protection ?





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Some states allow Short Barrel Shotguns (SBS), but it's actually fewer than those that allow short barrel rifles. If you can get a tax stamp for one and it's legal in your state, then you can get one.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:10 AM   #33
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How do I know which mount to get for a Trijicon RMR for my Benelli M1014/M4? The low or tall Picatinny mount and where to place it on the rail?
Edit...I guess placement comes when I go to zero it in...
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The low mount is what you want. A tall mount will put it pretty high and probably make you lift your cheek off the stock. I ran a Trijicon MRDS on my M4 for a little bit, and with the low mount it was right at the proper level. Where you mount it is really up to you. I put it right at the edge of the front end of the rail so that it wouldn't ever be in the way of my arm if I reached over the top to cycle the bolt handle. But, that was just my ideal position.
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Do you think the dual-illuminated RMR RM08 which has a 12.9 MOA Triangle is gimmicky?
I'm going to order the RM05 with the 9 MOA most likely.
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Do you think the dual-illuminated RMR RM08 which has a 12.9 MOA Triangle is gimmicky?
I'm going to order the RM05 with the 9 MOA most likely.
No. I've used the Reflex with the triangle, and it's a very good concept. Your accurate point of aim is at the top tip of the triangle, but you can just put the whole reticle over the target at close range and blast away. Trijicon marketed it as a faster and more reflexive reticle, and there is some truth to that as evidenced by their use of chevron reticles in the TriPower and the ACOGs, and the triangle/post reticles in the AccuPoints. I just don't think that it's as ground-breaking and revolutionary as they originally presented it to be, but that's just my opinion. It's more applicable for rifles though, since you use the tip of the triangle for aiming at longer ranges. With a shotgun, you'll likely never be shooting anything further than 100yds with it with a slug, or 25yds with buckshot.
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Great write up, perhaps I'm a bit bias but for the history of shotguns you cant leave out the superposed...
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Should have my Trijicon Dual-Illuminated 9MOA RMR (#RM05) and Low Picatinny Rail Mount (#RM33) here tomorrow!
Ordering the Side Armor Benelli M4 Mod 2 Rail System + 6shot Saddle after I pay off the AMEX haha.

After that a weapon light...

***Received my RMR and Mount today!!! Woot!
but I don't have any loctite so I don't want to mount it on the shotgun until I get my new Rail system...
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It's a new month...I get to order my Side Armor Benelli M4 Mod 2 Rail System!!!
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