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Old 08-13-2009, 03:38 AM   #1
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Is my camshaft wrong?

Hello guys, After a really bad overheating I had toreplaced my exhaust camshaft and the warped head. Now that I bought new parts and fix the engine. The car gives only 1 code which is P1397. Most of the member here tell me is the Camshaft sensor. I replaced it with a new one (about 100 bucks) and I still get the same code after 1 or 2 days. Is it possible that my camshaft was installed wrong? or do they need some type of calibration tool that maybe my mechanic didn't have? Or maybe bad luck and I got a bad CSP? thanks guys

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Old 08-13-2009, 03:47 AM   #2
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You'd probably be getting a lot more and different errors if the camshaft was installed wrong, but still just a guess. I'm not totally sure.
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You'd probably be getting a lot more and different errors if the camshaft was installed wrong, but still just a guess. I'm not totally sure.
I though so, the idle seem fine and smooth, but I lack power. I manage to find these part from TMS. pei330ci (The guy that is building the e46 for Drag/Race/track) used it to install his Schrick cams. He said that it was very difficult to install the camshaft by eye, but I don't know if that applies for OEMs



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Old 08-13-2009, 06:34 AM   #4
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The cam,cams could be out of time.COULD
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What are the symptoms if it is out of time?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:03 PM   #6
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he needs a bunch of special tools to probably line up the cams. there is a very good chance the engine is not timed correctly
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you can take the valve cover off and spin the motor to tdc and check the timing marks
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Yup, I'd say your camshaft isn't installed right.

Stuart can probably give a better insight as he's done this more than once hehe
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Yup, I'd say your camshaft isn't installed right.

Stuart can probably give a better insight as he's done this more than once hehe
Who is Stuart?
But wouldn't I get more codes if the timing is wrong? P1367 is the only code I have
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Hello guys, After a really bad overheating I had toreplaced my exhaust camshaft and the warped head. Now that I bought new parts and fix the engine. The car gives only 1 code which is P1397. Most of the member here tell me is the Camshaft sensor. I replaced it with a new one (about 100 bucks) and I still get the same code after 1 or 2 days. Is it possible that my camshaft was installed wrong? or do they need some type of calibration tool that maybe my mechanic didn't have? Or maybe bad luck and I got a bad CSP? thanks guys
I dunno, but it seems to me that if it were a mechanical problem, a new sensor would not have worked for 1-2 days.
I would think that the code would have come up immediatly, and that you would feel a problem with the way the car is running, if there was a problem with the camshaft.

Is there anyway to test a CSP?

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But wouldn't I get more codes if the timing is wrong? P1367 is the only code I have
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I replaced my seals, and the code is still there, is there something else that can trigger it. I already replaced 2 CPS. The engine idles like new, can it be the harness? or what el can it be?
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i replaced my seals, and the code is still there, is there something else that can trigger it. I already replaced 2 cps. The engine idles like new, can it be the harness? Or what el can it be?
its not timed right
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:26 PM   #14
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its not timed right
I talked to my mech about the timing, he told that he was 100% sure that the timing was OK, I get an average of 29/30 mpg on highway (auto/vert). He told me that if by any reason the cams would be off timing, the engine would feel very bad, and my engine would not feel smooth at all along with more codes besides the CPS fault (P1397). Any other ideas? can other parts of the VANOS become damage with my overheating? maybe wiring harness?

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Now I am thinking of buying a ZHP cams and drvanos VANOS to see if it works
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I would expect the problem to be failed vanos seals. I get reports of this all the time. When the engine overheats the vanos piston seal O-rings get badly damaged.
I presume from your post you replaced the vanos seals with the Beisan seals kit.
If you've already done this, try removing the vanos exhaust solenoid and solenoid piston underneath it. You'll need a 32mm deep socket. Spray clean the solenoid piston and the cavity it lives in. Check to see if the solenoid piston is warped. When in the cavity the piston should move freely. It should press in and spring back when released.

Be sure to use OEM CPS sensors. Aftermarket CPS sensors don't' work. Look for a BMW logo on the sensor.
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #17
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I replace hte seals (Baisan) and pistons the Baisan sells that are suppose to eliminate the VANOS rattle. My CPS was brane new from bavauto the bran is Beiltein (100 bucks) (or something like it) and I later replaced it with a used OEM CPS. Next paycheck I'll buy a new OEM CPS but I really doubt it will work.
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verify that your mechanic used the cam aligning tool when he put everything back, I had to buy the tool when I did mine and it's been a week now and no codes or anything, I did the vanos seals too BTW
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verify that your mechanic used the cam aligning tool when he put everything back, I had to buy the tool when I did mine and it's been a week now and no codes or anything, I did the vanos seals too BTW
But isnt the aligning tool onyl supposed to be used on aftermarket camshafts, the OEM cams already have the Helix that just needs to be matched right? or were can I buy it to give it to him? He has some alignment tools for camshaft however they are not BMW specific (do they need to be). I mean the car pulls strong and idle really good, wouldnt a bad alignment cause a lot more symptoms?. I am running out of options

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I'm not sure if it will give you other symptoms but you do need the aligning tool and the camshaft locking tool to time the cams correctly, even on stock cams

http://www.toolss.com/wbstore/main.a...-MASTER&CTMP=1

116150 & 113240 are the tools needed to time everything correct, if he has several aligning tools then he more than likely will have these

does he specializes on german cars, or is he a mechanic that works on all types of cars?
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