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Old 08-26-2009, 02:01 PM   #1
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So I've had my P46's for about two months installed now... 35w 6000k hids also. (facelift sedan)

I did also buy the things DDM offers to trick the computer, so no dash lights.

Well about a month ago my drivers side headlight showed it was burnt out when I turned them on in the middle of the day, I pulled close to someone at a stoplight for a closer look and it was indeed off. So I shut the car off and restarted it, turned on the lights and they worked fine ever since.

Until last night. I went to cold stone to get some ice cream with the woman and I used the "walk me home" feature when we got home...I saw the drivers side flicker a bit and I'm not sure if it turned off right away or what, I didn't think much of it.

So 15 minutes pass and I go to get into my car, turn on my headlights and the drivers side is out. Turn off the car (dash light doesn't come on until i attempt to turn them on) and turn the car back on, headlights still don't work. I let it sit overnight and tried again today, no good.

I'm furious. I've never had an hid issue like this before.

To troubleshoot I unplugged the ballast, and dash light out thing and plugged them back in. Still nothing.

I'm stumped. I did a search but found nothing with my exact symptoms.

Surely the ballast isn't bad, but it could be? Do I just need to replace the bulb?

The dash light out thing obviously still works because the dash light doesn't come on until i attempt to turn on the headlights.

I just don't want to go buying a bunch of things if I don't have to....

thanks!

ps- if something went out on me, does DDM cover me under any sort of warranty?
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:39 PM   #2
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try using the passenger side ballast, if it works its your ballast, if it doesn't its your bulb...the bulb out light on the dash wont come on until you actually turn your headlights on (it works the same for all the lights, wont trigger it until you actually use the light and it doesn't come on). As far as the warranty, no idea the best bet is to ask DDM
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also forgot to put this, i would def try to test everything with what you have before going and ordering more replacement stuff, saves you money
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Yea I have the same HID P46's from DDM as well. The problem i'm having is that they are turning on and off when ever they freaking feel like it for no reason at all. I just had the car serviced and the technicians thought my car was possessed or something lol. Any help would be great - thanks.
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try using the passenger side ballast, if it works its your ballast, if it doesn't its your bulb...the bulb out light on the dash wont come on until you actually turn your headlights on (it works the same for all the lights, wont trigger it until you actually use the light and it doesn't come on). As far as the warranty, no idea the best bet is to ask DDM
i know the dash lights won't come on until the headlights come on, but from my understanding....the car sends very low voltage signals to each one of the bulbs in the car to check if they are burnt out or not... like your tail light, it will show you it is out before you attempt to light it up via brake pedal.

I'll test with passenger side ballast and get back to you...this sucks
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i know the dash lights won't come on until the headlights come on, but from my understanding....the car sends very low voltage signals to each one of the bulbs in the car to check if they are burnt out or not... like your tail light, it will show you it is out before you attempt to light it up via brake pedal.

I'll test with passenger side ballast and get back to you...this sucks
yeah i think your right...ive just noticed (before i got led turnsignals) whenever i had a turnsignal bulb burn out the actual indicator never came on until i tried using that turn signal...i dunno though my car is a 2000 so they might have changed something

good luck with the ballast, my sister upgraded her e39 to hids and she had a ballast go about a month after i did the install (got hid from umnitza) so i guess its not to uncommon for a ballast to go out.
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yeah i think your right...ive just noticed (before i got led turnsignals) whenever i had a turnsignal bulb burn out the actual indicator never came on until i tried using that turn signal...i dunno though my car is a 2000 so they might have changed something

good luck with the ballast, my sister upgraded her e39 to hids and she had a ballast go about a month after i did the install (got hid from umnitza) so i guess its not to uncommon for a ballast to go out.
man, back when i had my 2000...i had ebay ballasts.

they still work to this day. using them in my girlfriends car still to this day...
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don't mind me. i'm just subscribing to see if anyone or you are going to figure it out lol

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Old 08-27-2009, 10:25 AM   #9
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My passenger's side just recently started going on and off. I've had capacitors installed for 2 years, and I'm just now having a problem. Odd.
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don't mind me. i'm just subscribing to see if anyone or you are going to figure it out lol

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I know you aren't the lighting newb, everyone knows that.

thanks for being a dick for no reason.

I did my research, but I couldn't find anyone else who had this problem because of the "walk me home" feature. I had solid output no flickering while the car was on. The "walk me home" feature is what screwed it up.

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My passenger's side just recently started going on and off. I've had capacitors installed for 2 years, and I'm just now having a problem. Odd.
I never had capacitors on my preface and it was flawless, even the "walk me home" feature never flickered. thinking about doing the capacitor mod just for kicks now

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thanks, i did think it was a dick move.

I tested the other ballast on it, it worked fine. I need a new ballast. I'll contact DDM but I doubt they offer any warranty what so ever. I have a few other ballasts from older kits in the garage at home. I'll see if one of those 35w ones will work.
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Just realized what mine was. Easy fix. I was cleaning up my wiring the other day and the connector came a little loose. Just got it taken care of User error....
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I know you aren't the lighting newb, everyone knows that.

thanks for being a dick for no reason.

I did my research, but I couldn't find anyone else who had this problem because of the "walk me home" feature. I had solid output no flickering while the car was on. The "walk me home" feature is what screwed it up.

thanks, i did think it was a dick move.

I tested the other ballast on it, it worked fine. I need a new ballast. I'll contact DDM but I doubt they offer any warranty what so ever. I have a few other ballasts from older kits in the garage at home. I'll see if one of those 35w ones will work.
right how is that being a dick? the fact that i'm subscribed means i'm interested in helping you out. i could have easily just closed the window. can't take a joke? plus currently i'm in the process of moving out, so i was hoping one of the other well versed members figure it out before i come back.

sounds like you already figured it out though
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I feel your error cancelling ballasts are giving out and you will need replacements.

I personally went to the dealer for a reflash so the computer knows it's dealing with xenons.

2nd option is capacitor mod [do a forum search]

look up pros and cons of each method and find which solution is best for you.

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I feel your error cancelling ballasts are giving out and you will need replacements.

I personally went to the dealer for a reflash so the computer knows it's dealing with xenons.

2nd option is capacitor mod [do a forum search]

look up pros and cons of each method and find which solution is best for you.

good luck.
don't you lose high beams when you do a dealer flash?

I know what the capacitor mod is but i'd prefer to stay away from it, if I have to resort to that (if these ballasts go bad) I will do it later on...
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you do if you have an 02+ e46.
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i do, which is why i'd prefer to stay away from that route.

i'll see how these other ballasts i have do...i just have to wait until next weekend so i can drive home to get them
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well you can always just use a relay and run it to the bixenon trigger wire and to the highs and there you go, now you have highs.
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