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Old 11-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #1
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Building off the success of Taurus Judge line of revolvers, Smith & Wesson decided to join the party. Home defense sales have steadily risen over the last few years, and I think most weapon manufacturers are looking at new and innovative ways to enter and capture their share of the market. S&W took a good thing and in my opinion made it better. While the Judge models fire 45LC/410 GA, the Governor fires 45ACP/45LC/410GA and holds six rounds.

Smith & Wesson markets this revolver in two configurations, with or without laser grips. Were going to review the model without them. According to S&Ws website specs for this gun, it weighs in at 29.6 ounces. My scale showed it weighed 30 ounces (+/- .5 ounces). It has a 2.75 steel barrel, an overall length of 8.5 and a maximum width of 1.75 measured at the cylinder. The frame is made of alloy, while the cylinder is hewn from stainless steel using a PVD coating. PVD coatings provide color and some scratch resistance. This is a nice touch since the cylinder is usually what ends up getting touched or roughed up the most. As mentioned above, the cylinder holds six rounds. The sights are fixed, with the front post having a tritium dot for night or low light use. The rear sight is a notch without any sight indicators on them. So, its a little difficult to locate them in the dark, but if you rely on the front sight post, that seems to work pretty well. Id rather see a double dot system on the rear sights, but they are a little small. Not so small they cannot be located, but probably too small to effectively place tritium dots on them. It can be used single or double action. Double action use showed an excess of 12 pounds for trigger pull. Single action was a nice and easy 4 pounds. The trigger pull is smooth all the way to the break point. In my opinion, its one of the best feeling trigger actions Ive experienced in recent memory. The trigger guard is large enough to wear gloves with, and doesnt interfere with your second finger on the grip
Looking at the pictures of his targets, I'm left wondering why he would really want something with that low of a hit reliability for home defense. Every .410 revolver review I read that says it's such a great home defense piece seems to shoot itself in the foot when it's actually taken to the range, and the reviewer doesn't even realize it.

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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The judge type of 410 revolvers sound like a good idea until you ask yourself, "What is a good caliber for a home defense shotgun?" Who would answer that with "410"?
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The judge type of 410 revolvers sound like a good idea until you ask yourself, "What is a good caliber for a home defense shotgun?" Who would answer that with "410"?
That was exactly my reply to the article.

You'd get a severe tongue-lashing from Reedo if you suggested a shotgun period for HD use here.


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That was exactly my reply to the article.

You'd get a severe tongue-lashing from Reedo if you suggested a shotgun period for HD use here.


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Reedo is full of sh!t. Joe Biden said two shots in the air from a double barrel would do the job. Idgaf about Reedo's military record, combat experience, extensive firearms training, or law enforcement experience. If it's good enough for crazy uncle joe, is good enough for me.

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Reedo is full of sh!t. Joe Biden said two shots in the air from a double barrel would do the job. Idgaf about Reedo's military record, combat experience, extensive firearms training, or law enforcement experience. If it's good enough for crazy uncle joe, is good enough for me.

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anyone got a lead on a double barrel .410?
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I've never even seen a sidexside .410.


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Stevens Model 311 comes in a sidexside .410. I think people use them for upland birds and such.
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Stevens Model 311 comes in a sidexside .410. I think people use them for big game in the bush, people, and such.
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CZ has one.

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Unlike other manufacturers that mount 28 gauge barrels on a 20 gauge frame and call it good enough, CZ’s Ringneck Mini quail guns are built on petite gauge-specific frames to give them proportion and balance found on no other production gun on the market.

The Mini is built with the same Turkish walnut stock with Prince of Wales grip, single selective trigger and hand-engraved, case-hardened receivers as the Ringneck. In .410, the Mini has fixed IC/MOD chokes while the 28 gauge has removable chokes.
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I've said it before, and it's certainly not an original thought of mine, but ask any "gun shop commando" about using a .410 pistol and they'd be all over it. Ask them to use a .410 shotgun for HD and they'd call you nuts and question why you'd use anything other than 12ga. You know, as if the .410 magically gets better with a 2" barrel vs an 18.5" barrel.
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I've said it before, and it's certainly not an original thought of mine, but ask any "gun shop commando" about using a .410 pistol and they'd be all over it. Ask them to use a .410 shotgun for HD and they'd call you nuts and question why you'd use anything other than 12ga. You know, as if the .410 magically gets better with a 2" barrel vs an 18.5" barrel.
obviously because of the inherently greater stopping power of a shotgun shell over a handgun round.

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