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Old 04-05-2014, 12:56 AM   #1
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Which rifle to buy...

Looking to buy a rifle and looking at the following two rifle.

Both of them are 5.56 nato caliber the most common ammo. Also they can shoot .223 rem ammo too

1) daniel defense lightweight 16 inch
2) This is bcm eag 14.5 carbine

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Old 04-05-2014, 02:09 AM   #2
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:51 AM   #3
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:59 PM   #4
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:44 PM   #5
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#2 is a Class III SBR. You aren't going to just drop by and pick one up.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:53 PM   #6
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Which rifle to buy...

As long as the flash suppressor puts it to 16" and it's pinned not screw on you're still legal.

I'd buy the one with the better trigger feel.

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#2 is a Class III SBR. You aren't going to just drop by and pick one up.
ehh looks like a pinned bcm mod 1 comp...so it wouldn't be an SBR. If it's unpinned it's an SBR but can be pinned easily and made non nfa.
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EAG carbine is a 14.5" pinned/welded non-NFA rifle. It's not an SBR.
Given that the OP lives in California, it would be wise to look up the laws regarding what parts can and cannot be had. Both of those rifles pictures have flash hiders. If you need it permanently affixed, the EAG is the one to get. I would recommend buying a specific California-legal rifle. If those rifles are already in circulation in California, then you may be okay.
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:13 PM   #11
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I am leaning toward the DD. It's not as heavy as the bcm even though it's shorter. Plus the DD is reliable and easy to shoot.

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check your state laws, like Reedo said. Both appear to have pistol grips, collapsible stocks, flash suppressors, and removable magazines, which could make them both nono assault weapons.

Both will be reliable and easy to shoot, though.
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What weight you lose on the lightweight DD barrel you make up for on the added 3" of rail length. In the end, the weight will be about equal to the BCM EAG carbine. Tangibly, you won't notice a difference.
In terms of reliability, they're basically Honda vs Toyota. Both are ridiculously reliable and made from top quality components. They are both literally at the top of the rifle hierarchy in that respect. One thing I will say is that if you are looking for a softer, smoother shooting rifle, you should look at a midlength gas system like with the BCM EAG. The DD model is a shorter carbine length gas system that is more "abrupt" and pounds the internals a wee bit harder. DD does make several midlength models, as does BCM. Both also make carbine length models.
You're definitely on the right track, but seriously make sure you get what is legal in your gun-hating state. What most of us in Free America can buy and own, you can't.
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Primaryarms.com has a crazy deal on dd rifles right now
I had an m4v3 but sold it before I ever shot it. It was top notch stuff and I wish I didn't have to sell it but it was one of my panic buys.
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What weight you lose on the lightweight DD barrel you make up for on the added 3" of rail length. In the end, the weight will be about equal to the BCM EAG carbine. Tangibly, you won't notice a difference.
In terms of reliability, they're basically Honda vs Toyota. Both are ridiculously reliable and made from top quality components. They are both literally at the top of the rifle hierarchy in that respect. One thing I will say is that if you are looking for a softer, smoother shooting rifle, you should look at a midlength gas system like with the BCM EAG. The DD model is a shorter carbine length gas system that is more "abrupt" and pounds the internals a wee bit harder. DD does make several midlength models, as does BCM. Both also make carbine length models.
You're definitely on the right track, but seriously make sure you get what is legal in your gun-hating state. What most of us in Free America can buy and own, you can't.
Thank you for the info. Even though I am leaning towards one rifle I'm still doing my due diligence. On one hand I've been told there's always loopholes to get around these laws. On the other hand I don't want to get stuck with a rifle I can't even use. DAMN CA!!!

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Thank you for the info. Even though I am leaning towards one rifle I'm still doing my due diligence. On one hand I've been told there's always loopholes to get around these laws. On the other hand I don't want to get stuck with a rifle I can't even use. DAMN CA!!!

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I don't think you will have to worry about getting stuck with one that you can't use. Most vendors will not ship an "evil" rifle to you.

Daniel Defense and BCM are both top tier companies, and you can't go wrong with either choice. I own several BCM ARs, and they have never let me down. I can't personally speak for Daniel Defense, but I have never seen one fail in a class.

Ultimately it will come down to the features that are allowable by your communist state and what is available for purchase at the time.
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