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Old 11-08-2009, 05:05 PM   #81
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Why buy WORSE than stock though? Its like dating a cover girl and breaking her face. If all you need is a drop, buy some Tein springs and call it a day.
whoo, quick reply.

uhh... because stock shocks were blown? my shiet used to be sooo horrible since they were blown. racelands were definitely a step-up in my opinion... but what isn't from blown suspension?
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:09 PM   #82
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I have to agree with Shady. If you want cheap replacements for stock dampers then go with Koni STR.T dampers. They are $375 (free shipping) for a set of 4 on eBay. There are even some Bilstein twin-tube dampers that sell on eBay for about $290. Buy something like that at a minimum and use your stock springs.
but then what about a slamm?

don't get me wrong. i see where you two are coming from.

but for people who don't know the difference from reload, rebound and compression... it doesn't matter. lol. they just want a slamm, these definitely give it to you for cheap, and then on top of that you get a set of new shocks.


naa what i mean?


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Old 11-08-2009, 06:53 PM   #83
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i do agree with u guys when it comes to performance-oriented coils, but the main reason i got these were to replace my blown setup and go lower. the guys i know (like raj) purchased these as a replacement for his blown setup, along with another friend of mine. sure i might feel a huge difference if i go to another set of coils, but these coils give me everything i need. i would feel weary tracking these 3 times a month but that isnt the reason i bought them. im not trying to convince ppl these coils are amazing, im just saying that theyre a good alternative for blown setups or for going low, i just find it stupid ppl need to bash them based on price and reviews, or lack thereof.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:38 PM   #84
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I think the whole question boils down this -

Q: Under what circumstances does it make sense to put cr@ppy coilover set up on your car?

A:When your current setup is toast, you are low on cash, can do the install yourself, and don't really give hoot about performance but want an adjustable ride height.

Does that about sum it up?
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:07 PM   #85
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The whole "I wouldnt track them" thing is kind of silly. Most tracks are neatly paved and most folks here dont go fast enough to use the kerbing. Your shocks take more abuse daily driving for sure.

And fwiw I'd rather ride around on blown oem shocks than poorly designed ebay coils.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:20 PM   #86
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And fwiw I'd rather ride around on blown oem shocks than poorly designed ebay coils.
Me too, but under the circumstances outlined above, I can see how some people might have a different preference.
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no point for me to try with some of u people, gl to those who try em out
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The whole "I wouldnt track them" thing is kind of silly. Most tracks are neatly paved and most folks here dont go fast enough to use the kerbing. Your shocks take more abuse daily driving for sure.

And fwiw I'd rather ride around on blown oem shocks than poorly designed ebay coils.
So where do you get ur fact that they are " poorly designed " ? from the price or from your research/experience....right now at this point I heard 0 negative feedback about them
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Because I know you can't even build a set of shocks with quality internals and ideal performance for the cost of these, let alone make a profit from them. There is no way that there is any kind of quality control ensuring that the valving is the same from side to side or consistent from kit to kit. And like I said, I'd love for someone with a new set to let us dyno them to see for sure.
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I see your point..but lets take DDM coils for example....They are $750....3 times more expensive thn Raceland...and look at their built quality and early problems that Raceland coilovers customers havent experienced so far....Im not comparing them to KW or Bilstein..thats a whole different league
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You couldn't pay me $800 to put DDM coilovers on any car of mine.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:44 PM   #92
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Both points are valid. Not everyone can drop $1000 on some coilovers. But dampers/springs are important to safety which I think is the primary concern. Yeah, you save a little money but is it worth the consequences? To some it will be. To others, it won't.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:36 AM   #93
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if you cant afford to replace your oem suspension, or upgrade it with a reputable company, then you shouldnt have bought the car. bmw's or otherwise. i put some ghetto crap on my civic a few years back NEVER AGAIN. oem is better than any cheap crap u can get
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ditto on your suspension being a safety critical component. There are some things you just shouldn't mess with on your car if you're going to be out on the road driving around with the rest of the commuting population
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200.00 was an introductory price. there not looking for profit, just to get a good name out with alot of product sales. they obviously have gotten it up a little, especially in the vdub scene. i believe that set up is now 340.00? i know they already raised the BMW setup, its now 240.00 plus shipping, they will never be 1000.00 coils, but it doesnt mean that just cause there new, half of you "speed demons" need to worry about crashing on the track. if you think safety is the concern im sure you read that bf.c post about some dude rolling his car with the ddms. some people rave about ddms, i see slim shady is hating but we all dont have z4c's bud, with the cash to support your super cool mods. some of us are just 18 year olds looking to whip our cars around some turns and get the rush of feeling like our a$$es are about the scrape the ground and when we crawl over speed bumps, we want to cringe hoping that we dont hear the scrapes. if you have the cash and want to spend it thinking your car will have less roll on those turns you do on track day go for it, but if your a kid looking for a drop and some back road fun, get some fuggen racelands!
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200.00 was an introductory price. there not looking for profit, just to get a good name out with alot of product sales. they obviously have gotten it up a little, especially in the vdub scene. i believe that set up is now 340.00? i know they already raised the BMW setup, its now 240.00 plus shipping, they will never be 1000.00 coils, but it doesnt mean that just cause there new, half of you "speed demons" need to worry about crashing on the track. if you think safety is the concern im sure you read that bf.c post about some dude rolling his car with the ddms. some people rave about ddms, i see slim shady is hating but we all dont have z4c's bud, with the cash to support your super cool mods. some of us are just 18 year olds looking to whip our cars around some turns and get the rush of feeling like our a$$es are about the scrape the ground and when we crawl over speed bumps, we want to cringe hoping that we dont hear the scrapes. if you have the cash and want to spend it thinking your car will have less roll on those turns you do on track day go for it, but if your a kid looking for a drop and some back road fun, get some fuggen racelands!
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200.00 was an introductory price. there not looking for profit, just to get a good name out with alot of product sales. they obviously have gotten it up a little, especially in the vdub scene. i believe that set up is now 340.00? i know they already raised the BMW setup, its now 240.00 plus shipping, they will never be 1000.00 coils, but it doesnt mean that just cause there new, half of you "speed demons" need to worry about crashing on the track. if you think safety is the concern im sure you read that bf.c post about some dude rolling his car with the ddms. some people rave about ddms, i see slim shady is hating but we all dont have z4c's bud, with the cash to support your super cool mods. some of us are just 18 year olds looking to whip our cars around some turns and get the rush of feeling like our a$$es are about the scrape the ground and when we crawl over speed bumps, we want to cringe hoping that we dont hear the scrapes. if you have the cash and want to spend it thinking your car will have less roll on those turns you do on track day go for it, but if your a kid looking for a drop and some back road fun, get some fuggen racelands!
Hey slim, I just hope my car isn't in the way of yours as you sail off the road because your $240 crap suspension failed.
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Trying to say that racelands aren't bad because people like DDM's is ridiculous. They are equally bad, and the people who rave about DDM's are just cheapos who don't know what they're talking about.

And yeah, my Z4 is sooooooooooo expensive. Its also completely stock
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Trying to say that racelands aren't bad because people like DDM's is ridiculous. They are equally bad, and the people who rave about DDM's are just cheapos who don't know what they're talking about.

And yeah, my Z4 is sooooooooooo expensive. Its also completely stock
Also I would put $20.00 on it that its dirty and needs a bath
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Oh god is it filthy! My wheels are so dirty they're black After it gets inspected tomorrow I'm going to get it a bath for sure.
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