No more chirping from 1st to 2nd gear

schnitzer27 · 01-29-2008, 02:48 AM

Hi guys,

I was just wondering why I can't chirp the tyres anymore from 1st to 2nd.
I used to rev to around 6k rpm then shift into 2nd and the tyres chirped.
Not that I do it often but I was wondering why it wont do it anymore.
I havent noticed a decrease in power or anything.
This started about 10 days ago. The only thing Ive done in the previous week was to top up the pressure in my tyres by about 0.1 bar.

Do you think thats whats causing it? I doubt it though....

E36graduate · 01-29-2008, 03:40 AM

youre gaining weight ? gas? temperature outside?

paraklas · 01-29-2008, 04:27 AM

slipping clutch?

nitro3421 · 01-29-2008, 08:50 AM

you used to have a really nice responsive clutch... not anymore

TxZHP04 · 01-29-2008, 09:31 AM

increased tire pressure should only help you chirp the tires.

Basically, your car is tired of chirping. Could be the clutch isn't grabbing like it used to but more likely your rear differential bushing and/or flex disc (guibo) are giving out allowing more slop in your drive train to absorb some of the energy that used to make it to the pavement.

Tp///M3 · 01-29-2008, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitro3421

you used to have a really nice responsive clutch... not anymore

Yup, clutch about to go.

schnitzer27 · 01-29-2008, 11:00 AM

It could be the clutch but wouldnt I feel the clutch pedal stiffen?
Cos they do make it harder to depress when theyre at the end of their lifespan.
I havent noticed any change at all.
Ill try the easier options first i.e changing fuel and warming up the tyres properly first because the weather has changed suddenly the past 2 weeks and its much colder now.
I really hope the clutch isnt going cos its quite expensive

TxZHP04 · 01-29-2008, 11:18 AM

Cold tires spin more easily. Changing fuel shouldn't change things.

Seriously, inspect your rear diff bushing and guibo for tears.

BigO330xi · 01-29-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tp///M3

Yup, clutch about to go.

+1

BartenderPlease · 01-29-2008, 02:08 PM

Just because he can't chirp doesn't mean his cluth is about to go

ianbiz · 01-29-2008, 03:02 PM

maybe since its cold, your tire pressures are lower, more rubber on road, less chance of tires breaking traction.

PreludeGuy · 01-29-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartenderPlease

Just because he can't chirp doesn't mean his clutch is about to go

HAHAHA I was about to say the same thing.

Alex323Ci · 01-29-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartenderPlease

Just because he can't chirp doesn't mean his cluth is about to go :rolleyes

no, you are right it doesn't.
but... from his post, more likely it has to do with his clutch.

kamaqazi · 01-29-2008, 08:49 PM

ihad an 06 mini cooper with 7k miles on it when my car started to not chirp going in to 2nd my tranny went a few weeks later.

Maybe cuz i beat the piss outta it maybe not.

But i do think it has to do with your clutch

BartenderPlease · 01-29-2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex323Ci

no, you are right it doesn't.
but... from his post, more likely it has to do with his clutch.

You are exactly right. His post was saying the clutch about needs replacing, since he can't chirp the 1-2 shift anymore.

paraklas · 01-30-2008, 12:58 AM

I think trying to "chirp" the tires with a 2.2L is a torture to the engine/ drivetrain, specially if you are running 245 rear.

stolidog · 01-30-2008, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianbiz

maybe since its cold, your tire pressures are lower, more rubber on road, less chance of tires breaking traction.

+1, also colder weather changes how your engine runs and how much power is delivered.

Steviejay01 · 01-30-2008, 03:31 AM

You need to get that 1.3L engine OUT of your car and install a 3L.

That should do the job.......hah

:-)

Daddy MO · 01-30-2008, 09:16 AM

are you serious? It could be anything...

tire pressure, clutch wear, road conditions, weather, etc... in any case your car probably struggled to chirp 2nd anyway if its having a hard time all of a sudden. Chirping is the slow way down the strip/street anyway since your losing traction. Leave the chirping for old school V8's w/ shift kits.

BartenderPlease · 01-30-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stolidog

+1, also colder weather changes how your engine runs and how much power is delivered.

Colder = more power

01-29-2008, 02:48 AM	#1
schnitzer27 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cyprus Posts: 148 My Ride: 320ci View My Garage	No more chirping from 1st to 2nd gear Hi guys, I was just wondering why I can't chirp the tyres anymore from 1st to 2nd. I used to rev to around 6k rpm then shift into 2nd and the tyres chirped. Not that I do it often but I was wondering why it wont do it anymore. I havent noticed a decrease in power or anything. This started about 10 days ago. The only thing Ive done in the previous week was to top up the pressure in my tyres by about 0.1 bar. Do you think thats whats causing it? I doubt it though.... __________________ AC SCHNITZER

01-29-2008, 03:40 AM	#2
E36graduate Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: on Earth Posts: 825 My Ride: //M3 View My Garage	youre gaining weight ? gas? temperature outside? __________________ M3 is SOLD

01-29-2008, 04:27 AM	#3
paraklas OEM ///Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 5,401 My Ride: ESS TS2 320ci View My Garage	slipping clutch? __________________

01-29-2008, 08:50 AM	#4
nitro3421 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 185 My Ride: 01 M3 TIAG View My Garage	you used to have a really nice responsive clutch... not anymore __________________ -2001 M3 - CB/6MT -2000 Ford F250 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel -1988 FJ62 Land Cruiser - sold -1972 Chevelle - sold -1996 328i - sold -2002 330i - sold -2001 M3 - sold -1995 M3 - sold

01-29-2008, 11:00 AM	#7
schnitzer27 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cyprus Posts: 148 My Ride: 320ci View My Garage	It could be the clutch but wouldnt I feel the clutch pedal stiffen? Cos they do make it harder to depress when theyre at the end of their lifespan. I havent noticed any change at all. Ill try the easier options first i.e changing fuel and warming up the tyres properly first because the weather has changed suddenly the past 2 weeks and its much colder now. I really hope the clutch isnt going cos its quite expensive __________________ AC SCHNITZER

01-29-2008, 09:31 AM	#5
TxZHP04 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 5,731 My Ride: ESS TS2+ ZHP View My Garage	increased tire pressure should only help you chirp the tires. Basically, your car is tired of chirping. Could be the clutch isn't grabbing like it used to but more likely your rear differential bushing and/or flex disc (guibo) are giving out allowing more slop in your drive train to absorb some of the energy that used to make it to the pavement.

01-29-2008, 11:18 AM	#8
TxZHP04 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 5,731 My Ride: ESS TS2+ ZHP View My Garage	Cold tires spin more easily. Changing fuel shouldn't change things. Seriously, inspect your rear diff bushing and guibo for tears.

01-29-2008, 02:08 PM	#10
BartenderPlease Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charleston Posts: 8,801 My Ride: 328i Sport View My Garage	Just because he can't chirp doesn't mean his cluth is about to go __________________ Gottalovethexi: thx for the old p-chopped sig \| BBS CH \| FK coils \| RE Bushings/Mounts \| K&N Intake \| ZHP box/no resonators \| \| 330i brakes \| FX-R + Orion V4 \| Full Exterior LED kit \| JL Audio in trunk \|

01-29-2008, 03:02 PM	#11
ianbiz Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL/ UCF Posts: 1,506 My Ride: E90 View My Garage	maybe since its cold, your tire pressures are lower, more rubber on road, less chance of tires breaking traction. __________________ Ian

01-29-2008, 08:49 PM	#14
kamaqazi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MA Posts: 1,045 My Ride: 00 328i View My Garage	ihad an 06 mini cooper with 7k miles on it when my car started to not chirp going in to 2nd my tranny went a few weeks later. Maybe cuz i beat the piss outta it maybe not. But i do think it has to do with your clutch __________________

01-30-2008, 12:58 AM	#16
paraklas OEM ///Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 5,401 My Ride: ESS TS2 320ci View My Garage	I think trying to "chirp" the tires with a 2.2L is a torture to the engine/ drivetrain, specially if you are running 245 rear. __________________

01-30-2008, 03:31 AM	#18
Steviejay01 Spunkmeister Jay Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South UK Posts: 456 My Ride: 2000 330Ci View My Garage	You need to get that 1.3L engine OUT of your car and install a 3L. That should do the job.......hah :-) __________________ Blue Flame Cat Back, Angel Eyes, Dave - F Filter, LED interior, DTM Style 18's "Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow"

01-30-2008, 09:16 AM	#19
Daddy MO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NOR*CAL - Benicia Posts: 622 My Ride: e30/K5 Blazer/Xterra View My Garage	are you serious? It could be anything... tire pressure, clutch wear, road conditions, weather, etc... in any case your car probably struggled to chirp 2nd anyway if its having a hard time all of a sudden. Chirping is the slow way down the strip/street anyway since your losing traction. Leave the chirping for old school V8's w/ shift kits. __________________ MO's eBay l MO's Mail Thanks to: Lubrify.com / TOMAS Sport Tuning / BRRacing / Craftwerx Concepts / I/O Port Racing Supplies / AGUND1S Tire

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