Is my friend correct on this theory...

Originally Posted by snikwad

ok, this thread is about to become a silly argument/discussion already

what gheyness

Tis the way of all religious talk around here...

Originally Posted by snikwad

ok, this thread is about to become a silly argument/discussion already

what gheyness

it was doing so well too.

boo yourselves.

Originally Posted by FadeToblack

He is heavy into religion. I am not. I have nothing against religion, religion is great. It brings people together, it gives people a reason to follow basic moral concepts and guidelines to live there life by, which are for the most part helpful and positive. It may introduce you to new friends, maybe a future wife/husband.

On the other hand, how many wars have been because of religion? If religion existed would there have been the attacks on sept 11th? umm...no, never.

So you can't disagree that there are both +'s and -'s.

SO on to the question. I told my friend that i believe in evolution, we simply evolved. And the world was created off some sort of big bang theory of sorts.

He says that the scientific odds of the world being created "scientifically", and not by a higher power are somewhere along the lines of a tornado going through a junk yard and a car being put together as all the parts are being whipped around.

true?

I dont understand why evolution and creationism cant be one of the same. Did God create the universe in 7 days? I didnt realize God was bound by time. Could 7 "days" really mean 7 billion years? I dont see why not. However, I feel that there is a divine hand that guides the overall evolution of species. I have worked in the microbiology field for quite a while. The way amino acids interact, the way certain processes occur, and the overall big picture of organic beings makes it very difficult to believe that something came from nothing.

Your ears are a perfect example. In your ears there are little hairs. When a sound wave comes in contact with the ear, it is funneled into the ear, where a series of mechanical movements create (almost like dominos) creates a shifting of the base of these hairs cells, moving them back and forth. The rocking of these hair cells, somehow, through a series of protein channel openings on the membranes of each cell connecting the ear to the brain, allow the brain to interpret this forward/backward movement of hair cells as sound. The wierd thing is, I just made it sound so much simpler than it really is, and with that, its hard to believe this was a random act of evolution, especially considering the thousands of similar functions that happen in the human body.

I think many people use religion as an excuse to carry out their own selfish ambitions. But in all honesty, it doesn't matter what you call yourself- jew, christian, muslim. If you dont act on your religion (ie: If youre a christian and you dont act like Christ), than the only thing you are is a hypocrite. Unfortunately we all **** up now or later.

Originally Posted by neil1138

Every single religious argument is like that. That is why I do not argue with with religious people, they always have God on their side apparently. How teh fvck am I supposed to win?

There is no point in winning. Either you believe or you dont. Its not the religous persons right to judge you. You are a grown man capable of making your own decisions, and if the good lord calls you one day, you will know it. And as a grown man, I hope you arent always constantly trying to "Stick it to him," about how weird religion can be. Trust me, we already know how weird it can be. It all comes down to respecting and understanding of each other.

Originally Posted by Lexie330ci

Your ears are a perfect example.

I fvcking hate this example. It's such a cop-out. It's like saying "look at the computer... there's no way a man could create such a complex object... it must be alien!" Of course that would be an easy explanation for someone looking at a computer for the first time, but once you take a look at the history of the first circuits and subsequently microchips, it's not quite so hard to understand.

What I'm getting at is, the ear, eye, tongue and nose may appear to be extremely complex, but they're nothing more than simple data receptors that evolved to suit various circumstances better over time based on external stimulus.

Originally Posted by snikwad

religion causes division... some of the greatest wars in mankind's history were caused by religion. you figure out the rest.

This really isnt the true intention of religion, just mans.

Originally Posted by Owtlaw333

I fvcking hate this example. It's such a cop-out. It's like saying "look at the computer... there's no way a man could create such a complex object... it must be alien!" Of course that would be an easy explanation for someone looking at a computer for the first time, but once you take a look at the history of the first circuits and subsequently microchips, it's not quite so hard to understand.

What I'm getting at is, the ear, eye, tongue and nose may appear to be extremely complex, but they're nothing more than simple data receptors that evolved to suit various circumstances better over time based on external stimulus.

There is intelligent design behind the making of a computer. I didnt say we couldnt understand it. In fact we have the entire genome mapped out. Its just difficult for me to believe that it just came to be. Not trying to cop out.

Originally Posted by Lexie330ci

There is no point in winning. Either you believe or you dont. Its not the religous persons right to judge you. You are a grown man capable of making your own decisions, and if the good lord calls you one day, you will know it. And as a grown man, I hope you arent always constantly trying to "Stick it to him," about how weird religion can be. Trust me, we already know how weird it can be. It all comes down to respecting and understanding of each other.

I'm 19 and I prefer the dark side of hell. I hear they have beer and roofies and someone's probably ordering pizza.

Originally Posted by Lexie330ci

This really isnt the true intention of religion, just mans.

men and their religious beliefs, their religious fanaticism.
same sh1t

There is no point in winning. Either you believe or you dont. Its not the religous persons right to judge you. You are a grown man capable of making your own decisions, and if the good lord calls you one day, you will know it. And as a grown man, I hope you arent always constantly trying to "Stick it to him," about how weird religion can be. Trust me, we already know how weird it can be. It all comes down to respecting and understanding of each other.

If all mankind could do that, the world would be a better place.

Originally Posted by neil1138

I'm 19 and I prefer the dark side of hell. I hear they have beer and roofies and someone's***65279; probably ordering pizza.

rapies

didnt realize you were so young man. I wish I could take apart a transmission at 19 .

Originally Posted by neil1138

I'm 19 and I prefer the dark side of hell. I hear they have beer and roofies and someone's probably ordering pizza.

thats a rather childish post.. u just lost cool points.

Originally Posted by Lexie330ci

rapies

didnt realize you were so young man. I wish I could take apart a transmission at 19 .

haha thanks. It was entertaining for sure

Originally Posted by snikwad

men and their religious beliefs, their religious fanaticism.
same sh1t



If all mankind could do that, the world would be a better place.

People mold religion into what they want. The overall story of religion is love God and love each other, when you deviate from this, you deviate from religion.

Originally Posted by snikwad

thats a rather childish post.. u just lost cool points.

I lost cool points?

I never knew anyone thought I was cool. The internet is srs bsns, let me tell you

very serious biniz bro... you aint know..

People mold religion into what they want. The overall story of religion is love God and love each other, when you deviate from this, you deviate from religion.

ive never seen a BMW fanatic star a war with a Benz fanatic.

Originally Posted by Lexie330ci

There is intelligent design behind the making of a computer. I didnt say we couldnt understand it. In fact we have the entire genome mapped out. Its just difficult for me to believe that it just came to be. Not trying to cop out.

Just because something useful is there doesn't mean a mind had to be behind it... the body adapts... long-term exposure creates permanent change and thus is passed down to the next generation. This is evolution in a nutshell. Even with the existence of a god I find the idea that he has to have a hand in everything a bit pretentious.

Originally Posted by R3IGNman

Are you really this stupid?

Hey look it's tomorrow

Originally Posted by Owtlaw333

Just because something useful is there doesn't mean a mind had to be behind it... the body adapts... long-term exposure creates permanent change and thus is passed down to the next generation. This is evolution in a nutshell. Even with the existence of a god I find the idea that he has to have a hand in everything a bit pretentious.

Like I said earlier man, I believe in evolution, the fact that we have the senses we do and are composed the way we are, all comes from a passing of genes and genetic mutations that ultimately make up who we are. I just feel, from my experiences in life, that there is more than just coincidence or chance.

ive never seen a BMW fanatic star a war with a Benz fanatic.

lol, dude, i am def not starting a war, esp since I lose most of these lol. (BTW, my 330 > your amg ) ((you do have an amg right?))