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Old 10-28-2009, 02:29 AM   #41
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Like I said earlier man, I believe in evolution, the fact that we have the senses we do and are composed the way we are, all comes from a passing of genes and genetic mutations that ultimately make up who we are. I just feel, from my experiences in life, that there is more than just coincidence or chance.




lol, dude, i am def not starting a war, esp since I lose most of these lol. (BTW, my 330 > your amg ) ((you do have an amg right?))
hahah, no, i have SQBMWs old 328i.
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Like I said earlier man, I believe in evolution, the fact that we have the senses we do and are composed the way we are, all comes from a passing of genes and genetic mutations that ultimately make up who we are. I just feel, from my experiences in life, that there is more than just coincidence or chance.




lol, dude, i am def not starting a war, esp since I lose most of these lol. (BTW, my 330 > your amg ) ((you do have an amg right?))
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Like I said earlier man, I believe in evolution, the fact that we have the senses we do and are composed the way we are, all comes from a passing of genes and genetic mutations that ultimately make up who we are. I just feel, from my experiences in life, that there is more than just coincidence or chance.
Who said anything about coincidence or chance? As I said, everything has a purpose and was developed from stimuli... the term "everything happens for a reason" isn't exclusive to divine powers
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This is a really cool video, but it seems like it has more to do with predicting the future, rather than the existence of God. I didnt come to the realization that there is a god because my friends had similar dreams, or because we have the same first names, but rather more emotional, inspirational, and "spiritual" revelations. I am a scientist, I strive to make the world a better place through innovation, and it is my faith that gives my work/life meaning and propels me to continue what I do. I am not stuck in a circle.
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Who said anything about coincidence or chance? As I said, everything has a purpose and was developed from stimuli... the term "everything happens for a reason" isn't exclusive to divine powers
I agree...to an extent.
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He is heavy into religion. I am not. I have nothing against religion, religion is great. It brings people together, it gives people a reason to follow basic moral concepts and guidelines to live there life by, which are for the most part helpful and positive. It may introduce you to new friends, maybe a future wife/husband.

On the other hand, how many wars have been because of religion? If religion existed would there have been the attacks on sept 11th? umm...no, never.

So you can't disagree that there are both +'s and -'s.

SO on to the question. I told my friend that i believe in evolution, we simply evolved. And the world was created off some sort of big bang theory of sorts.

He says that the scientific odds of the world being created "scientifically", and not by a higher power are somewhere along the lines of a tornado going through a junk yard and a car being put together as all the parts are being whipped around.

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Religion is derived from the same logic that brought us fun-facts like the earth being flat and that the universe revolves around the earth; whatever people couldn't comprehend, they just filled in the gaps with bad logic.... religion is just bad logic that stuck around for a long time.

This topic always goes back to the origins of life and thats where things get tricky. I personally think its a bit irrational to be 100% certain that there is a god or vice versa... neither side has the tools to prove their position (evolution is a given... but it doesn't touch the origins of life/universe)

I will give in to religion on the point that its nearly impossible to explain how something came from nothing... that is a fair and logical question to ask. However, the next conclusion they draw from this question is that there must be some supreme being (which is responsible for life), but more importantly, they claim to know exactly what that supreme being wants and thats where religion loses a ton of points in the logic department.

Even if there is some form of a higher power, how do you know what his demands are? How do you know that he cares about you? How do you know that he wants you to be good and not evil? You don't. But that doesn't stop religion from presenting its opinion of what they think god demands as absolute facts. So even if there is some form of a supreme being, religion is still forming conclusions from thin air and this has no place in any logical discussion.
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