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Old 11-04-2009, 04:07 PM   #41
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You're fine. No federal or local laws are being broken. At best, you might be breaking the terms of your lease, depending how you read it. Keep it there and carry as you would on any other private property which posts "no firearms permitted" signs.
lol, those signs CRACK ME UP...

I always "high five" them when I walk past them and I'm armed.
Like they are going to do anything to stop me from carrying

Pointless and useless signs they are.
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lol, those signs CRACK ME UP...

I always "high five" them when I walk past them and I'm armed.
Like they are going to do anything to stop me from carrying

Pointless and useless signs they are.
Honestly, unless they are at eye level on a door as I walk through, I don't even see them anymore. Usually if someone makes a comment about them (and typically these are not people that know that I carry) then I take a moment to explain how those signs are effectively worthless and don't mean a dang thing.

I never tell anyone I'm carrying, except my family knows to assume I always have one on me.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:02 PM   #43
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You're fine. No federal or local laws are being broken. At best, you might be breaking the terms of your lease, depending how you read it. Keep it there and carry as you would on any other private property which posts "no firearms permitted" signs.
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lol, those signs CRACK ME UP...

I always "high five" them when I walk past them and I'm armed.
Like they are going to do anything to stop me from carrying

Pointless and useless signs they are.
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Honestly, unless they are at eye level on a door as I walk through, I don't even see them anymore. Usually if someone makes a comment about them (and typically these are not people that know that I carry) then I take a moment to explain how those signs are effectively worthless and don't mean a dang thing.

I never tell anyone I'm carrying, except my family knows to assume I always have one on me.
In the state of florida, it is illegal to carry a weapon if a sign is posted even if you have your license. its the same as a govt building.

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Ouch, that sucks. In Missouri, those signs don't mean squat, which is quite nice.
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In the state of florida, it is illegal to carry a weapon if a sign is posted even if you have your license. its the same as a govt building.

Just don't "see" the sign
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In the state of florida, it is illegal to carry a weapon if a sign is posted even if you have your license. its the same as a govt building.

Private property the same as federal?

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per FL statute . You can carry and those signs don't mean squat. If you are discovered carrying (or really for any reason the owner decided) and told to leave private property (Place of business, the mall, etc.) you can be arrest for trespassing and a 3rd degree felony.

Just ignore the signs, and leave if asked.

IMHO: I wouldn't want to visit/shop anywhere guns WEREN'T permitted.

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790.06 (12) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any career center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
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In some situations, business owners post signs that appear to prohibit guns, but because the signs do not meet State or local law defining the appearance, placement, or verbiage of the sign, the sign does not carry the force of law and a permit holder can legally ignore it.


In Texas, for example, the specifications of a Section 30.06 sign prohibiting concealed carry are clearly defined, and only a sign meeting the specifications carries the force of the section. A sign, for example, that depicts the silhouette of a gun with a red circle and slash (similar to other signs prohibiting an action), that simply says "NO CONCEALED WEAPONS ALLOWED", is too small, has incorrect text, is printed only in English or Spanish and not both languages, or is not placed prominently can technically be ignored as it doesn't fulfill the requirements to ban permit holders from carrying concealed. Many of these points of law have yet to be tested in court, but such is explicitly taught by the state licensed concealed carry instructors.


Conversely, the intent of posting such a sign may only be to discourage entry while carrying by those unfamiliar with the law, which (almost by definition) typically includes only those not licensed to carry concealed handguns. Because a licensee is trained to recognize a valid sign and differentiate it from a non-binding sign (in some states, Florida for example provides no such training on sign posting, wording, or size regulations), posting an invalid sign for this purpose serves as a form of doublespeak, reassuring patrons who oppose concealed carry while at the same time not actually prohibiting concealed carry.


http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-gun-laws.html



http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...rearms-signs-/
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lol, those signs CRACK ME UP...

I always "high five" them when I walk past them and I'm armed.
Like they are going to do anything to stop me from carrying

Pointless and useless signs they are.
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