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Old 11-05-2009, 11:35 PM   #61
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This man was a commissioned officer of the US Army. He held a position of authority and power over enlisted ranks and officers below him. His acts are beyond redemption.

Court martial him. Execution via hanging.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:40 PM   #62
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This man was a commissioned officer of the US Army. He held a position of authority and power over enlisted ranks and officers below him. His acts are beyond redemption.

Court martial him. Execution via hanging.
Thought I would modify your last remarks.......


This man was a commissioned Field Grade officer of the US Army. He held a position of authority and power over enlisted ranks and officers below him. His acts are beyond redemption.

Court martial him. Execution via beheading (like his Muslim brothers would do if this happened overseas).
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:47 PM   #63
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What newspaper has been printed in the few hours since this incident occurred? Last I heard the investigation (by law officials) isn't concluded. I claim NO insight, that's why I'm interested to see what the investigation says.



Well that doesn't make you sound ignorant at all.

Anyway, carry on with your bigotry, our little back and forth is finished.
A Danish newspaper. I never said i wasnt ignorant. but i guess you never assumed that the slow moving car in front of you were old people/women. I assume all muslims are faggets (the south park faggets that is)
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This incident is the reason why they need to lift the law of not being able to carry firearms on military installations. Such bull crap. I wish I could take my sig on base. Would feel much better.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:10 AM   #65
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^Right, just have everyone packing heat during a briefing. Or how about a bunch of drunk young guys in the dorms getting into an argument with guns near by. Or how about some guy with PTSD coming home to find out his wife cheated on him. Man the list of awesome reasons to have guns on base just grows and grows.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:15 AM   #66
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^Right, just have everyone packing heat during a briefing. Or how about a bunch of drunk young guys in the dorms getting into an argument with guns near by. Or how about some guy with PTSD coming home to find out his wife cheated on him. Man the list of awesome reasons to have guns on base just grows and grows.
People off of a base or not in the Military at all experience stress, marriage issues, alcohol, arguments, etc.

Sorry, but anti-gun examples as this just don't hold water with me.

Not having a gun does not make anyone safer
Having a gun does not make everyone more dangerous
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:19 AM   #67
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That's fair enough and we've danced this dance so many times, we're starting to sound like an old married couple.

I will say however, that the reasons I stated and others seem to suffice for the US military.
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The Associated Press, quoting federal law enforcement officials, said Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they were still trying to confirm that he was the author.
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One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.
"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:39 AM   #69
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NidalHasan scribbled: There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that "IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE" and Allah (SWT) knows best.
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I will say however, that the reasons I stated and others seem to suffice for the US military.
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It's the Internet.

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Can't believe he is alive. Im glad I was not there. It would be hard for me to try to help him live after that. I would have just let him bleed out.
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^Right, just have everyone packing heat during a briefing. Or how about a bunch of drunk young guys in the dorms getting into an argument with guns near by. Or how about some guy with PTSD coming home to find out his wife cheated on him. Man the list of awesome reasons to have guns on base just grows and grows.
Oh come on, if someone is that disturbed or wants to go postal on a military installation, it wouldn't be hard to bring a firearm on base. They don't search through your car at the base gate (just verify your military ID). Last week I stopped by the base to buy groceries. I totally forgot about the no firearm regulation and had my handgun in the trunk after coming from the gun range.
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If someone is that disturbed or wants to go postal on a military installation; it's not hard to bring a firearm on base. They don't search through your car when you come on base. Last week I had to go into the base to buy groceries. I totally forgot about the no firearm regulation and had my handgun in the trunk after coming from the gun range.
True. But I think the overall point is if someone has something readily accessible they might be more inclined to use it because of the situation/emotion of the moment. If you have to go home and get your gun it gives you time to rethink things and maybe cool down. I'm not saying this is the exact case, just a thought.
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True. But I think the overall point is if someone has something readily accessible they might be more inclined to use it because of the situation/emotion of the moment. If you have to go home and get your gun it gives you time to rethink things and maybe cool down. I'm not saying this is the exact case, just a thought.
I agree with your point. In this case, the Major most likely brought his own firearms on base.
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I agree with your point. In this case, the Major most likely brought his own firearms on base.
Yea, I wonder what he used exactly(brand and caliber). Any details?
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I hope they beat him until he pisses blood and repeatedly OC spray him, let the dogs bite him and do whatever the fvck they want to him. This guy is a total fvcking sh!tbag.
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I hope they beat him until he pisses blood and repeatedly OC spray him, let the dogs bite him and do whatever the fvck they want to him. This guy is a total fvcking sh!tbag.
Tell us how you really feel, let it out.......
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oh I could keep going LOL. It would get much darker though. Prob include drilling out both knee caps and squirting lemon juice down the holes....just saying....
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