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Old 02-12-2017, 08:55 PM   #1
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Has anyone experienced cars/trucks with some sort of new LED lights mounted low center near the front plate? A rectangle about 12" by 4" of super bright white light. Twice this month I've been meet by someone with one of these coming at me. During the daylight it was near blinding. At night I was unable to see anything until we passed. These can't be legal. I hope the cops are stopping this before it becomes a fad.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:33 PM   #3
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Yup all the 4x4 truck bros put them on and run em on high all the time. It's totally illegal.
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Yup all the 4x4 truck bros put them on and run em on high all the time. It's totally illegal.
This, Tacoma drivers love $500+ light bars that serve no real purpose.
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They've been popping up a lot around me. The best is the trucks that mount it on the back of the cab so it's basically worthless. I'm starting to see the short ones in the grills of beater civics, etc.

I had to flash my brights at another Jeep a few weeks ago. Idiot had his brights on, super bright fogs, the hood mount fogs, and light bar all on at the same time. Oh, and big rims with the tiny sidewalls.

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They do serve a purpose if you are off-road at night, but 99% of people that have them are all for show.

No idea why something like this setup would ever be needed
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They've been popping up a lot around me. The best is the trucks that mount it on the back of the cab so it's basically worthless. I'm starting to see the short ones in the grills of beater civics, etc.

I had to flash my brights at another Jeep a few weeks ago. Idiot had his brights on, super bright fogs, the hood mount fogs, and light bar all on at the same time. Oh, and big rims with the tiny sidewalls.

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HA you THINK there's no purpose for mounting them on the back of the cab, until you tailgate that truck and they turn them on in your face.
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Has anyone experienced cars/trucks with some sort of new LED lights mounted low center near the front plate? A rectangle about 12" by 4" of super bright white light. Twice this month I've been meet by someone with one of these coming at me. During the daylight it was near blinding. At night I was unable to see anything until we passed. These can't be legal. I hope the cops are stopping this before it becomes a fad.
I have many of them....



They are very blinding and are very illegal to use on the road. In some states, (probably all states, but only some actually enforce it) you have to keep them covered up while on the road. They are essentially as powerful as photo flashes to the human eye at night.
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They do serve a purpose if you are off-road at night, but 99% of people that have them are all for show.

No idea why something like this setup would ever be needed
On the road, never. In fact, in bad weather, it makes things even worse.
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My vision has held up pretty well as I've gotten older (still don't require correction) but one thing that has deteriorated is my ability to not be dazzled by oncoming lights at night.
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HA you THINK there's no purpose for mounting them on the back of the cab, until you tailgate that truck and they turn them on in your face.
I meant they have them on the back of the cab facing forward.

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My vision has held up pretty well as I've gotten older (still don't require correction) but one thing that has deteriorated is my ability to not be dazzled by oncoming lights at night.
Same here.

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They are very blinding and are very illegal to use on the road. In some states, (probably all states, but only some actually enforce it) you have to keep them covered up while on the road. They are essentially as powerful as photo flashes to the human eye at night.
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The off-road LED light bars are everywhere around here. Every pavement princess has at least one on the front of his truck. Some guys use them as a substitute high beam (of which they often forget to turn off when an oncoming car is approaching) and some guys use them as a DRL (also dumb). I've seen two people have them wired up to a relay that triggers with their high beams, so that's equally as dumb.

They're basically pointless unless you really use them off-road. I considered a couple mounted on my rear bumper of my truck to act as reverse lights, but it would practically be pointless.

One application I have seen that was not obnoxious and probably served some function was a pair of these...



...used as fog lights. They were mounted low on the truck's bumper and pointed downwards, so they really didn't create any glare. I've also seen a few trucks with them installed in the rear bumper, connected to a relay powered by their reverse lights. I can see that being useful.

But yeah... a Monster-chugging, Skoal-sucking, 20-something-year-old construction kid with off-road light bars on his pavement princess pickup? That's just dumb.
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But yeah... a Monster-chugging, Skoal-sucking, 20-something-year-old construction kid with off-road light bars on his pavement princess pickup? That's just dumb.
Unfortunately this is all the rage these days. And it's not just the 20 somethings.

My favorites are the ones who go and drop BIG money on 10 Rigid light bars for their truck which, for off road travel, only sees a minor gravel road from time to time.
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I do like the guys that have the twin 50" bars on the roof.....because one isn't enough.
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I could see putting a set down low in front and rear for use off-roading or in really extreme conditions only. But they have to stay off during the day.

Similarly, auxiliary lights on motorcycles are very common, because motorcycle headlights usually suck. So bad that you can't even maintain the speed limit at night. So it's a little more justifiable. The rules still apply though... gotta keep them off or very dimmed around other people.
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I do like the guys that have the twin 50" bars on the roof.....because one isn't enough.
I saw one bro with a F350 diesel that had two roof bars, four a pillar pods, and three grille light bars. I wonder if he's legally blind or just a tool...

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I could see putting a set down low in front and rear for use off-roading or in really extreme conditions only. But they have to stay off during the day.

Similarly, auxiliary lights on motorcycles are very common, because motorcycle headlights usually suck. So bad that you can't even maintain the speed limit at night. So it's a little more justifiable. The rules still apply though... gotta keep them off or very dimmed around other people.
If they are properly aimed and used for the right purpose, there aren't any issues... The biggest problem with the LED bars is that they, by design, throw light everywhere. They aren't projectors that puts the light exactly where it needs to go.
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If they are properly aimed and used for the right purpose, there aren't any issues... The biggest problem with the LED bars is that they, by design, throw light everywhere. They aren't projectors that puts the light exactly where it needs to go.
The flood lights are the problem. The spot-patterned lights tend to have a rather narrow beam and would be great for fog lights or low-aiming auxiliary lights. Like you said, they just have to be aimed properly, meaning not straight ahead.
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