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Old 12-30-2009, 02:31 AM   #281
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why is it impossible to dye the interior imola red?
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:37 AM   #282
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why is it impossible to dye the interior imola red?
If you read on leatherique's site, they go into some detail about the EPA regulating an ingredient that makes red dye legit I guess and that affects nearly everything from food coloring to clothing dye and even leather dye. Since the EPA has banned this ingredient from red dye, imola dye is now a weak dye and not strong like it used to be. Thus it can only be used to touch up already existing imola red leather and not for a color change. I guess it just isn't potent enough and if you try a color change to it, you will still be able to see your color underneath

I posted a little explanation in my OP, I was going to do imola red but I called them and that's what they told me so I did cinnamon instead. Cheers my friend

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Some of you guys thought I would be doing imola red but apparently doing a color change to imola is near impossible to do. They explained to me how red dye isn't as strong of a dye as it used to be and how it would never turn out well because imola is just straight weak red dye, nothing else. But they said cinnamon would work because it was a potent dye with whites, yellows, reds and oranges in the dye. So I ordered 48 oz of cinnamon... this is gonna be tons of prep work, lol
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:09 AM   #283
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threads getting stupid long, but what do you plan on doing for the tan pieces on the side of the seat? ordering new trim pieces? and is the leather on your seats the same as M cars? i know there's a few variations of the leather and iirc the M cars have nappa leather. i have spare interior for my m5 and ive been craving the caramel. the fact my car has the leather dash and door panels would make it even more epic....

legit project though
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:23 AM   #284
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threads getting stupid long, but what do you plan on doing for the tan pieces on the side of the seat? ordering new trim pieces? and is the leather on your seats the same as M cars? i know there's a few variations of the leather and iirc the M cars have nappa leather. i have spare interior for my m5 and ive been craving the caramel. the fact my car has the leather dash and door panels would make it even more epic....

legit project though
Yeah hopefully I wrap this thread up quickly, it is damn long. But all of the tan pieces are being painted currently, if they ever even fail and nick/scratch in the future, I will just buy new pieces but for now the paint is turning out really well. I posted some pictures of the footrest a couple pages back, iliek

It's just normal e46 leather I guess, the back seats and door panel inserts are. But the front seats that you see dyed cinnamon are leatherette. So that's what makes this project legit/sketch, whichever way you see it

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Old 12-30-2009, 03:32 AM   #285
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what do you think he lied? you see the effort neil is putting into doing this project right, so why do you post such a dumb response like that?
I answered a question of his.... So I'm going to consider my source on this.
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:40 AM   #286
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I answered a question of his.... So I'm going to consider my source on this.
I'm confused, what was this supposed to mean?
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:41 AM   #287
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I really hope so my friend, I can't wait to just get everything done. Thank you for helping me



Calm yourself my friend, you think I'm lying to you guys? I scratched it really hard with my finger nail and jabbed it with a pen, no color came off. If it had, I would not have dyed the seats and I would have called the project off. Keep in mind, these are leatherette seats so prep took twice as long and I worked twice as hard. If the dye holds up on leatherette, it will definitely hold up on leather.

I just dyed these seats, they need to cure. If you are looking for some kind of reassurance that dyeing is a good option, I am not the person to talk to, Alec is. I'm sure his seats have been time tested and he would be glad to answer your questions regarding durability and longevity.
The E36 crowd has been doing this for awhile, most people have had trouble with their high traffic areas.. Driver seat specifically. From what I've read, 6-8 months in, the crack repair kit starts to break down and/or the dye starts to crack. The good news is, I doubt you're using much, if any of the crack repair. GL with the project, it looks great so far!!
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:44 AM   #288
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good thing i haven't touched the crack filler bottle they gave me
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:21 AM   #289
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:28 AM   #290
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Yeah hopefully I wrap this thread up quickly, it is damn long. But all of the tan pieces are being painted currently, if they ever even fail and nick/scratch in the future, I will just buy new pieces but for now the paint is turning out really well. I posted some pictures of the footrest a couple pages back, iliek

It's just normal e46 leather I guess, the back seats and door panel inserts are. But the front seats that you see dyed cinnamon are leatherette. So that's what makes this project legit/sketch, whichever way you see it

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i see, so could you do this with the real leather i have in my m5? i want a mix of cinnamon and black. i have a spare center console in leather if you want to try it. or i can swing by sometime, either is fine if ur up for it.

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Old 12-30-2009, 05:34 PM   #291
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I'm confused, what was this supposed to mean?
Someone was Eavesdropping, saying I had a irrelevant post and that I should not post..... I am perfectly calm and sorry you took my questions hostile but I'm not a person to read something on the internet and immediately believe it's true. Anyways, thanks for the response and it was exactly what I was looking for. This is definitely something I am considering but I would hate to redo all of it in a year, that's all.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:30 PM   #292
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Someone was Eavesdropping, saying I had a irrelevant post and that I should not post..... I am perfectly calm and sorry you took my questions hostile but I'm not a person to read something on the internet and immediately believe it's true. Anyways, thanks for the response and it was exactly what I was looking for. This is definitely something I am considering but I would hate to redo all of it in a year, that's all.
If with all of the pictures and information I have posted, you think I'm lying to people somehow in "reading something on the internet and believing it's true" then maybe this isn't the project for you. I did not make this thread to convince people to dye their leather and mindlessly argue with people, if you think I am taking my time and doing this job to the best of my ability, then great. But if not, there is no way I can convince you otherwise.

And shame to the members who for some reason give me 1 star ratings on this thread of all threads. What a joke, show me some support my friends. The car will be done by the end of the week, cheers
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:17 PM   #293
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This thread is taking too long and therefore I will give you a one star rating. Take that!

In doing so, I will have somehow fixed the problem of not seeing the finished result. I am awesome.

(lulz, jk neil, I gave you a 5 to make up for the douchebags)
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:23 PM   #294
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Can you do a scratch test for us to explain the durability of this stuff? I dont want my jean rivets to scratch them or some inconsiderate passenger.
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I did a scratch test and posted a picture of where I did it. Do you want me to make a video?
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Actually I was looking for something more than just saying you scratch tested. For example, did you use the back of a knife, finger nail, penny, etc..... Also how many passes it actually takes before you noticed the mar.
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Calm yourself my friend, you think I'm lying to you guys? I scratched it really hard with my finger nail and jabbed it with a pen, no color came off. If it had, I would not have dyed the seats and I would have called the project off. Keep in mind, these are leatherette seats so prep took twice as long and I worked twice as hard. If the dye holds up on leatherette, it will definitely hold up on leather.

I just dyed these seats, they need to cure. If you are looking for some kind of reassurance that dyeing is a good option, I am not the person to talk to, Alec is. I'm sure his seats have been time tested and he would be glad to answer your questions regarding durability and longevity.
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I lol'd but then this made me feel warm and fuzzy inside
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I answered a question of his.... So I'm going to consider my source on this.
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I'm confused, what was this supposed to mean?
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The E36 crowd has been doing this for awhile, most people have had trouble with their high traffic areas.. Driver seat specifically. From what I've read, 6-8 months in, the crack repair kit starts to break down and/or the dye starts to crack. The good news is, I doubt you're using much, if any of the crack repair. GL with the project, it looks great so far!!
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Someone was Eavesdropping, saying I had a irrelevant post and that I should not post..... I am perfectly calm and sorry you took my questions hostile but I'm not a person to read something on the internet and immediately believe it's true. Anyways, thanks for the response and it was exactly what I was looking for. This is definitely something I am considering but I would hate to redo all of it in a year, that's all.
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If with all of the pictures and information I have posted, you think I'm lying to people somehow in "reading something on the internet and believing it's true" then maybe this isn't the project for you. I did not make this thread to convince people to dye their leather and mindlessly argue with people, if you think I am taking my time and doing this job to the best of my ability, then great. But if not, there is no way I can convince you otherwise.

And shame to the members who for some reason give me 1 star ratings on this thread of all threads. What a joke, show me some support my friends. The car will be done by the end of the week, cheers
I didn't pick a fight; I asked legitimate questions..... you are jumping down my throat as if I accused (putting words in my mouth) you of lying but I was just trying to get a better idea of what your scratch test consisted of.... If that insults you then I have no idea how you've made it this far in life.... I have not argued, merely justifying my points because you keep accusing me of something different..... You must have got an A in psychology... Now keep your thread on topic instead of poking at me..... God forbid, someone asked this poor man a question!

You can keep flaming but I hope other people found my question use full...

Once again, maybe you need to consider your own advice; "Calm yourself my friend."
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Great work so far. Dye job looks very good. knowing the work involved and seeing some of the negative feedbacks on here, I would just forget about posting updates in this thread and just be content with your new interior when it's done. Let others who complain try it on their own and use a knife, nail or whatever they want to scratch their own seats.
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And shame to the members who for some reason give me 1 star ratings on this thread of all threads. What a joke, show me some support my friends. The car will be done by the end of the week, cheers
It's a god damn digital gold star, SHUT UP. I hate what youtube has done to people...



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I didn't pick a fight; I asked legitimate questions..... you are jumping down my throat as if I accused (putting words in my mouth) you of lying but I was just trying to get a better idea of what your scratch test consisted of.... If that insults you then I have no idea how you've made it this far in life.... I have not argued, merely justifying my points because you keep accusing me of something different..... You must have got an A in psychology... Now keep your thread on topic instead of poking at me..... God forbid, someone asked this poor man a question!

You can keep flaming but I hope other people found my question use full...

Once again, maybe you need to consider your own advice; "Calm yourself my friend."
You asked a VERY important question and it deserved to be answered correctly and not attacked.

How many people have re-dyed seats?
How many people reported failure of that dye shortly thereafter?
How many people reported failure from Leatherique products alone?

I'm a leatherique fan (of their leather care), but the answer to ALL those questions above is A LOT.

You're probably better off asking Neil how great the seats look in a year Derek. I'm sure you'll get the same answer so many others have found out.
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No one ever said he's half assing anything. I think he's doing an amazing job... unfortunately he's using products that are known to fail quite easily.
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No one ever said he's half assing anything. I think he's doing an amazing job... unfortunately he's using products that are known to fail quite easily.
Well in my research and from what Mike told me, crack filler is generally the product that tends to fail over time creating cracks in the dye. I can only hope that the cases you are referring to were the result of improper prep. I know that I worked on my seats for 10+ hours before I even got to dyeing them. I can only do the best job that I can and hope that my work stands up to time. In the case that the dye does fail in a year, well that's something that I will worry about then. All I ask is that you do not pollute this thread with that talk right now. I am doing the absolute best job I can, in prepping the leather and dyeing to the best of my ability, I can guarantee everyone here that. Cheers
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