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Old 12-13-2009, 03:59 PM   #1
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I'm looking into getting involved in my local racing club, and I was wondering if any of u guys had any tips on where to start moddifing or bassicly what should I do to hit the ground running. Currently I own a 2005 325ci. Thanks in advance to anyone who post.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:26 PM   #2
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I'm looking into getting involved in my local racing club:
What club ? SCCA, NASA, EMRA.......tell us which one. Next don't do anything
without that clubs "rule book".

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Old 12-13-2009, 04:49 PM   #3
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Actually I dont know. I actually just got word of some people that were gattering in the weekends and just going to the track, 1/4, or just simply have a good time. But anyway if you guys could explain what are the differences of the regulations i would be glad.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:53 PM   #4
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first thing is buy a good helmet. the new snell rating is coming out soon so you want to get the 2012 (?)

i would say your best friend is a DE and driving schools best mod you can do is teach yourself to drive and all that ****. however i would recommend some sort of race springs/shock combo, sway bars and very important - low weight wheels and wide tires ....
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:57 PM   #5
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thanks mvrk10256. The one thing I allready was planing on doing was the helmet, since its a requierment to get into the track. Talking about the sway bars and shocks and all of that, what do you recommend for a sporty ride on the weekends but comfortable enough for a daily driver. If you could advice me on some wheels and tires that would be
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #6
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I'd start with seats and/or belts, a new set of brake pads, tires, and new brake fluid. Safety first.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:27 PM   #7
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Which makes the best, based upon personal experience, safety gear and suspention (sway bars specially).
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:33 PM   #8
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Like someone else said. Don't start modifying the car until you know what you want to do with it. If you are going to start racing competitively then you need to look at a rule book and figure out what you are allowed to do in that league as far as modifications go.

But if you are just going to be doing recreational track days, high performance driving events/schools, lapping days, etc. then you can modify however you want as long as safety is the first thing you take care of. A good way to start though would be in this order:
  1. Make sure that your car can pass tech inspection and that all of the maintenance is up to date and that all of the suspension is 100%. Always make sure that you have high performance brake fluid like Ate Super Blue or Type 200 and that it is changed every 6-12 months if not more.
  2. I always recommend that you go out and buy the best helmet you can afford in your budget; most people start with either a Bell Mag 4 or an Arai GP-Jet open face helmet. Open face helmets are good for driving schools since it makes it easier to talk to your instructor.
  3. Next get some good gloves; the best you can afford in your budget, but I highly recommend the Alpinestars Tech 1-ZX.
  4. Make sure you have eye protection, some Smith sun glasses with swappable lenses are a good fit since they allow you to use either rose, brown, or clear lenses depending on the weather.
  5. Get some upgraded brake pads. Performance Friction "New Z-Rated" brake pads are a great place to start with full race pads coming later.
  6. Then move on to make sure you have a good set of Max or Extreme Performance Summer Tires. Light weight and wider squared wheels are a good idea if you can afford it at this point too. DOT-R and full slicks can come later.
  7. You'll want some suspension upgrades eventually but these aren't necessary to get started... dampers, springs, camber/caster plates, bushings, and sways in that order.
  8. The sky is the limit from here but there is no need to venture down this path until you get some serious experience under your belt; roll bar/cage, seats, pedals, stripping down the interior, removing unneeded components, upgrading the cooling, limited slip differential, power upgrades, etc.
Have fun!!! Just make sure to figure out what your budget it is and what you want to get out of it and you'll have a great time.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #9
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I'd start with seats and/or belts, a new set of brake pads, tires, and new brake fluid. Safety first.
very good advice. i wouldnt buy any modifications, suspension or power wise. just get good pads and brake fluid. learn do drive with what you have before you start modifying.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:29 PM   #10
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first thing is buy a good helmet. the new snell rating is coming out soon so you want to get the 2012 (?)
The Snell SA 2010 standard release has been set back to October 2010.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:41 PM   #11
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the comment about learning with what you got before modifying is a good approach. but in reality many of us are not that smart/patient. I would say get the helmet, schlockt (?) is a safety belt company that makes these trick belts that fit into the rear seatbelt anchors so you can click em in for race day and then click them out. great 4 point harness. drove a friends car taht had it on stock sports seat, and the grip was excellent. The brakefluid is a definite, however if your pads are fine i see no reason to replace them. i autocross on stock BMW pads and have no problem overpowering my tires.

however i am currently sititng on H&R race springs, and have tokico blues sitting in my closet awaiting install. Obviously i havnt driven on them but just a hand compression check they are a lot stiffer then stock. koni adjustables are also popular. as well as bilstines. As far as sway bars i would say get the hotchkiss front and rear kit from bimmerworld.com they are about 400 bucks. i am saving up for those next for my 323i.

but some good tires and driving lessons, DEs, and just experianced ride alongs are the best mods you can do.
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he brakefluid is a definite, however if your pads are fine i see no reason to replace them.
Stock pads may work for Auto-X but they will not last more than a lap or two on a real road course.
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I used stock pads on a track once. My silver wheels looked black and I was just about metal to metal at the end of the day.

Hawk HPS are good for autocrossing, stock pads will do just fine too. Basically anything that doesn't require heat.
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