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Old 03-25-2013, 06:11 PM   #161
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i have a 2005 330ci zhp that is needing a new starter. do i need the starter with threaded mounting holes or without? i can provide the links if needed.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:17 PM   #162
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Have you tried www.realoem.com to see exactly what starter they list for your specific VIN?
Best alternative to that is to get in there and read the model number off of the actual starter.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:15 PM   #163
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it's listing both models. dealership wants $1100 to change it out. Yikes
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:39 PM   #164
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$1100 is overpriced, even for the dealer.
But it is a nasty job.
See attached work.

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:09 PM   #165
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Many thanks to the OP (newtuner). He hasn't been here in a while but I thought I'd say thanks anyway and share some notes for the next guy. I successfully changed the starter in my 03 coupe using these instructions. Replaced due to a screeching/crunching sound after starting the car cold.

- The cockamamie doohickey in step 14 really works. The E12 engages the bolt squarely so there's no chance of slip. Instead of a ratchet at the end I did have a breaker bar. Also, where he suggests a 6" and 10" extension end-on-end, I just had a single 18" extension. Believe it or not, the bottom bolt is not where you'll get bloodied up.

- For the top bolt, I didn't need to move anything out of the way other than the suggested cabin filter, AC blower cover and brake shield. What I DID have was a 3/8" Flex Head Gear Wrench. If you're doing this job, the $15 you pay for this tool is well worth it. Because it's a ratcheting wrench, you can position it perfectly to apply your full weight to break the seize, and later on to apply your weight to tighten it. The 3/8" size Gear Wrench engages the bolt perfectly, not loose, not tight, but just right.

- The replacement motor you'll get will likely be the bigger one. It looks like it won't go in (because the outgoing motor was a tight enough fit) but I assure you it will. Read the guide carefully, particularly the details.

- If your motor is frozen after removing the two bolts, you can pry it out between the back of the solenoid and the transmission bell housing. You don't have to pry it a lot. Just enough to break the seize on the alignment pin and you can wiggle it out the rest of the way.

- After you pull the motor out of the housing, point it up, then use your extensions to reach and undo the connections. The starter comes out through the bottom of the car, terminal side first. If you removed the fuel filter shield as suggested the motor will come out without drama.

- Reinstalling the motor is the mirrored reverse. Goes in with the terminal facing you, get it up in there and reinstall the cables, then rotate into position. There's not much space but as you rotate it into position, move the cables around it, and it will pop into position.

- Get a steel brush to polish the alignment pin and apply anti-seize. Every bit to ease re-installation counts.

- Last is a Flex Head Gear Wrench (13mm) to tighten the main terminal on the starter. The main cables are short, so final torque needs to be applied while the motor is deep in the engine bay. There's no way to hold the starter motor and apply torque on a ratchet with an extension. There IS a way however to hold the motor and tug on a ratcheted wrench to get it nice and tight. You'll know what I mean when you're doing it.

I'll update this post with pictures when I get the chance. Just wanted to say thanks to newtuner and to endorse the instructions. I spent 4 hours to remove the motor, then spent another 4 hours the next day to get the new starter in and button everything back up. Took my time, cleaned everything as I went, and analyzed the situation. If you have the luxury to take a break in between as I did, take it. You'll need your wits with this one, but it's a repair very doable for anyone with a few E46 DIYs under their belt.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:32 PM   #166
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Thanks cvx5832, ya I havent had a chance to hang out here as work keeps me busy. I was shocked that my thread has had almost 64,000 views. That makes the time it took to make the write up worth it. Thanks for adding the updated tips on new tools that can be used to help a guy along. I have gotten a funny look from even mechanics when I told them I changed out this starter. lol I guess they know what a pain this is. Happy wrenching guys. Cheers
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:19 PM   #167
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Did this job yesterday. What a pain in the ass! It look a LOT longer than anticipated. The wobbler and u-joint extensions are a must! I would recommend getting a 3/8 to 3/8 wobbler extension.

Hope to not do that job anytime again soon!
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:37 PM   #168
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I might have missed some else asking this question but
Anyone done this using this DIY on a 5spd?
Is there Any difference?
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:58 AM   #169
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newbie here but is this diy gonna be the same for 04 325ci? gonna tackle this in 2days
zhank you
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:49 PM   #170
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I really don't know; but a quick google suggests it is a hard to get location. Good Luck!
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:00 AM   #171
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and should i rebuild mine on local starter shop since its oem or get replacement? waiting time is no prob for me
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:12 AM   #172
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Totally depends on the quality of the starter shop rebuild. Do you have that much knowledge of them along with faith?

Starter replacement is very similar across all models and years.
It is a nasty job.

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Old 06-08-2013, 09:25 AM   #173
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i rebuilt my last starter and alternator of my nissan 240sx there and last till today (4years)
im excited to get this done
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:35 PM   #174
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Just my 2 cents...I would replace the starter rather than rebuild since the replacement is more likely to last longer. I hope to never have to replace another BMW starter again.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:45 PM   #175
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nevermind,i got it out just now with bit of busted knukles

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Old 06-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #176
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nevermind,i got it out just now with bit of busted knukles


Any additional tips to add to the first two posts on this thread? ?
Some detail that might have been overlooked.

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Old 06-18-2013, 10:18 AM   #177
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Any tips for us who have never come close to seeing the starter in their car?
LOL yes: Go back to post #1 and read this thread, and get someone who is mechanically inclined to help you
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:29 PM   #178
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DIY: Starter Replacement...Finally!!!

My car is back on the road thanks to this DIY. About 6 hours of work and $400 saved. Thank you!


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Old 06-30-2013, 04:24 PM   #179
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My car is back on the road thanks to this DIY.

Any additional tips to add to the first two posts on this thread? ?
Some detail that might have been overlooked.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:14 PM   #180
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Any additional tips to add to the first two posts on this thread? ?
Some detail that might have been overlooked.
I suggest reading through the first page of this thread in addition to the step by step instructions. It was helpful. I ended up buying a remanufactured Bosch unit to replace my Denso starter that had failed. After core charge with the new starter and a new 3/8 universal joint I am only into this project about $150.

Now to fix the window regulator and then my beloved xi will up for sale.


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