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Old 10-09-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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260 rwhp 323i 99 e46 with orig motor and no super charger!

Hello all it has been a long ardiuos road, but i finally got the call today from Evosport! Put down 260 rwhp with a 99 e46 323i orig motor! no supercharger, but instead a custom turbo gt 35r with a pectel stand alone! dinan free flow exhaust, all custom piping and oil feed lines by Evosport! Huge thanks to Dale and Brad from Evosport for your time and patience, i have heard alot of good things about their customer service and i would say Brad has matched every one of them! I will have pics of the dyno and the set up in the next week or so as i am going to Cali to pick up my car
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:17 AM   #2
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Can't forget Dale either he deserves props! as he put up with me and all my questions and calls! Thanks Dale!
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:41 AM   #3
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Sweet!!

BUT, why did you pay all the money for a gt35r to only make 265whp?? You must be at like 6lbs of boost...
That turbo is effecient enough to make 650+HP. Plus, you could have got a smaller ball bearing turbo to help spool-up, but we all know the gt35r is spool happy.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:02 PM   #4
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i am at 8 lbs of boost, and the reason i went stand alone and gt35r is because i plan on rebuilding the bottom end of the engine and turning up the boost to around 12-14 lbs in the near future
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i am at 8 lbs of boost, and the reason i went stand alone and gt35r is because i plan on rebuilding the bottom end of the engine and turning up the boost to around 12-14 lbs in the near future
very cool project, congrats on getting it running

i hope you plan to open up your head, and get more displacement somehow...

where, rpm, do you achieve full boost?
what kind of turbo manifold is it?

I think you may have gotten more turbo than what you'll be using, but maybe not, share with us your plans
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:04 PM   #7
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Hey Blue jeans i have not driven the car as of yet since i am from mn and it is in cali, so i do not know what rpm it hits boost or full boost. I am open to suggestions on the head what do you think i should do?
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:41 PM   #8
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Nice, you live in St Paul? I'd love to come take a look at it when it's finished.
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Hey Blue jeans i have not driven the car as of yet since i am from mn and it is in cali, so i do not know what rpm it hits boost or full boost. I am open to suggestions on the head what do you think i should do?
if you've ever had the chance to compare the ports on the heads of the m54 and the m50 family, then you know the m54 could use improvement. (I will refer to m52tu as m54, it's all the same family). At the very least, I would port .5" into the port to port-match to manifold, which is probably m50 based (m50,m50tu,s50,m52,s52)... of which the basic castings are all the same. I would port as much as 1" into the exhaust port to try and achieve the smoothest port-match.

As far as turbo, to really use it with a m52tub25, it needs to be built. Otherwise I feel it's tremendously oversized. You should experience 0 dropoff at upper rpms, but with the boost levels, displacement and compression ratio you have, it seems to me that a gt28 would be far more appropriate blower that would yield similar numbers with a far earlier spool. With the TT t3/t4, at 8 psi I made over 300whp on a very conservative dyno. Granted your motor is smaller, but I think you will manage better curves, much more area under them with something smaller.
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Wouldn't you have gotten more power with a supercharger? I mean, yay turbo and all but at the end of the day saying no supercharger and then making like less than the standard one doesn't sound like a reason to celebrate just yet..

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Hello all it has been a long ardiuos road, but i finally got the call today from Evosport! Put down 260 rwhp with a 99 e46 323i orig motor! no supercharger, but instead a custom turbo gt 35r with a pectel stand alone! dinan free flow exhaust, all custom piping and oil feed lines by Evosport! Huge thanks to Dale and Brad from Evosport for your time and patience, i have heard alot of good things about their customer service and i would say Brad has matched every one of them! I will have pics of the dyno and the set up in the next week or so as i am going to Cali to pick up my car
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Congrats man!

It took a year, but you did what you said you would. Not many have done this.

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:Thanks for the congrats everyone! And yes Pei it finally came true however it was more like 2 years the car was not running right and under the knife lol! Not Evosports fault! Evosport is located in Huntington beach. Alec i will send you a pm when i get the car back soon i was going to fly down there and drive it back but now that it is snowing i am gonna have it shipped back, waiting for the clutch masters clutch to go in this week and then i will find out when the trucking company can pick it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL finally get it done and all i want to do is drive, but living in Minnesota sux cuz it is already snowing= no driving!

ANd everyone that wants pics they will come soon along with a dyno to prove my words are the truth and not just
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Hey Pei ya the pectel is sick!!!!!!!!!!! after talking to Neel at apex and dale at evosport i knew this was the one for my future upgrdes on the built motor, turn it up to between 12-16 psi and really let that gt35r breath at that point this car will be the ultimate sleeper!!
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Acader in regards to your post, no you would not get more power with a supercharger i looked and aa and ess are very close they are both around 310 bhp wich is at the crank i believe which would make it around 255 whp. Also those are not upgradeable as i can rebuild my bottom end and turn up the boost and hopefully get around 350-400 whp, also name one person that has done this besides irish mikes racing! Kinda bragging rights for a almost one of a kind thing. Plus when people tell me i can't do something it makes me wanna do it that much more!
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Acader in regards to your post, no you would not get more power with a supercharger i looked and aa and ess are very close they are both around 310 bhp wich is at the crank i believe which would make it around 255 whp. Also those are not upgradeable as i can rebuild my bottom end and turn up the boost and hopefully get around 350-400 whp, also name one person that has done this besides irish mikes racing! Kinda bragging rights for a almost one of a kind thing. Plus when people tell me i can't do something it makes me wanna do it that much more!
You can't get 600hp out of that car
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i have a couple pics of the engine bay with the piping and oil feed lines etc, how do i post pics?
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