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Old 02-22-2012, 02:16 PM   #13981
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Seems like an easy fix to me...

Install a normal car 12v battery, attach an emergency charger to it, and when the tesla battery reaches 1%, it begins charging off the normal battery. It would kill that battery, but who cares, just get another one for 100$.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:30 PM   #13982
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physical disconnect...
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:35 PM   #13983
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physical disconnect...
Even if disconnected, they will continue to slowly discharge.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:36 PM   #13984
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Seems like an easy fix to me...

Install a normal car 12v battery, attach an emergency charger to it, and when the tesla battery reaches 1%, it begins charging off the normal battery. It would kill that battery, but who cares, just get another one for 100$.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:37 PM   #13985
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the first 50% of the battery can be discharged if its left sitting for 7 days. that's some serious parisitic loss.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:45 PM   #13986
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the first 50% of the battery can be discharged if its left sitting for 7 days. that's some serious parisitic loss.
High performance batteries are high performance due to not having much of a "memory". That means they lose a charge much quicker than a "non" performance battery.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:19 PM   #13987
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And if you don't take care of your car, by changing the oil perhaps, paying attention to your gauges and engine lights, or checking your tire pressure, you can also end up with a brick (or, in the case of tire pressure, a squished-up brick in a drainage ditch on the side of the highway). Obviously it is shocking that the battery can deplete so fast and with such disastrous consequences, but the point is that all cars require some level of care.

I don't know if you follow Jalopnik regularly, but if you do, you might notice that Ray Wert (the editor) has some sort of vendetta against Tesla. I'm not sure when Elon Musk pissed in his cereal, but it must have been a lot of piss and probably on a whole bowl of lucky charms marshmallows that ray had been saving. Ray genuinely seems to do everything he can do to disparage the company--sometimes (this time) it is deserved, other times less so.

Or maybe I'm just protecting my own since a great number of the engineers at Tesla are Stanford grads.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:05 PM   #13988
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Well how about them apples...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3...#ht_952wt_1167
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #13989
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Not any single part of any gas car costing $110k or $50k costs $40k.

I agree. I do think they have something against Tesla, but today it was pretty justified. I'm not a big fan of "the nanny state" and intrusive consumer protection stuff, but I don't think anyone should be subjected to causing $40,000+ of damage to their car by just driving it a little too far or leaving it a little too long... once.

Carl, btw, my father has a reserve on a Model S. I'm pulling even more for a F01 M5 now

Ruben, 830hp without the supercharger? on a 410ci? I know its a racing engine but.....

I wonder how long those fcab's and that bushing in the steering linkage will last



Stock rear end?


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Old 02-22-2012, 05:03 PM   #13990
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That isn't a stock rear end btw And that motor only makes 630hp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_car_racing

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:13 PM   #13991
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That isn't a stock rear end btw And that motor only makes 630hp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_car_racing
From the ad

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But you're right, i'm sure wikipedia knows more about this car than the builders do...
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:19 PM   #13992
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But you're right, i'm sure wikipedia knows more about this car than the builders do...
what is from the ad? 410ci making 1000hp when he stated before it made 900.. My buddy owns a procharged z06 427ci, it runs 190ish in the mile. That car isn't making that much hp. If it was he would proudly post a dyno sheet. Being he owns his own shop and all. Who knows maybe it will show up? The Differential that is pictured in that picture is not a stock 3 series dif, or even a m diff.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:24 PM   #13993
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what is from the ad? 410ci making 1000hp when he stated before it made 900.. My buddy owns a procharged z06 427ci, it runs 190ish in the mile. That car isn't making that much hp. If it was he would proudly post a dyno sheet. Being he owns his own shop and all. Who knows maybe it will show up? The Differential that is pictured in that picture is not a stock 3 series dif, or even a m diff.
Maybe you should check out what a sprint cup car is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Cup#Sprint_Cup_cars

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Sprint Cup Series cars (often called "Cup cars") adhere to a front engine rear-wheel-drive design. A roll cage serves as a space frame chassis and is covered by a 24-gauge sheet metal body. They have a closed cockpit, fenders, a rear spoiler, and an aerodynamic splitter. Fielding a car for one season usually costs $10-20 million.[18] Each team may build their own cars and engines (per NASCAR's specifications) or purchase cars and engines from other teams.

The cars are powered by carbureted V8 engines, with cast iron blocks, and a pushrod valvetrain actuating two-valves per cylinder, and limited to 358 cubic inches (about 5.8 liters) displacement. However, modern technology has allowed power outputs near 850 horsepower (630 kW) in unrestricted form while retaining the conventional basic engine design. In fact, before NASCAR instituted the gear rule, Cup engines were capable of operating in excess of 10,000 rpm.[19] A Sprint Cup Engine with the maximum bore of 4.185 inches (106.3 millimeters), and stroke of 3.25 inches (82.55 millimeters) at 9,000 rpm has a mean piston speed of 24.75 m/s (roughly that of a Formula One engine). NASCAR currently plans to change from carburetion to fuel injection for the 2012 season.[20]

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:29 PM   #13994
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I'm not sure if you are serious with your last post? These are outlaw sprint cars. Further more those cars are running on straight meth.. not pump get serious!

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:39 PM   #13995
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I'm not sure if you are serious with your last post? These are outlaw sprint cars.
You seemed skeptical that 410ci could make the horsepower claimed. I was pointing out that 351ci can make 850 NA hp. Add a blower and more cubes and I dont have any doubts for 900-1000hp...
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Tell your dad to get his money back, or at least that is my opinion. I've seen one in person (the dealership is a few blocks away from where I live), and its disappointing, to say the least. Its not a pretty car, inside or out. It will probably be the best electric car out there, as the Tesla roadster has been so far (minus the battery issues), but the car just isn't nice to look at.

But I'm also not sure how I feel about the new M5, mainly because of the weird sound system engine noise thing lol. If someone at BMW had suggested that ten years ago, I'm fairly sure he would have been shot against the wall third reich style. Can I interest him in an M3 sedan?
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You seemed skeptical that 410ci could make the horsepower claimed. I was pointing out that 351ci can make 850 NA hp. Add a blower and more cubes and I dont have any doubts for 900-1000hp...
You have me all wrong brother! THAT 410 is not making 1000hp imo, thats all.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:48 PM   #13998
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You have me all wrong brother! THAT 410 is not making 1000hp imo, thats all.
Fair enough
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:01 PM   #13999
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That's not too great to hear. My dad isn't big on buying cars sight unseen. I think it looks alright. Some angles are better than others though. I really didnt like the look of the E90 sedan when it first came out. That's not to say I like it much more these days. Oh, and removing that automated sound thing would be priority #1, with big wheels and tires and a loud intake being next



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Old 02-22-2012, 06:12 PM   #14000
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Yea I definitely thought it looked alright in photos, but it just didn't do anything for me in person. I'm probably being unfair, since its rival karma is beautiful. The one I saw was also somewhat of a prototype, so it definitely could have changed between then and now, it probably has a lot to do with personal taste. Lol I always said I couldn't buy a car sight unseen until I plunked down the cash for my 330 on ebay.

In other news, some ******* in a c-class just floored it from a stop on a patch of gravel and threw rocks all over my front end. Pissed carl is pissed.

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