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Old 03-14-2012, 03:51 PM   #14461
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:52 PM   #14462
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #14463
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You're on the right track though, half of it is just knowing what you have so you can make changes from there. Make sure to get a little note pad and put your settings in it. Then make notes of how the car feels and handles. If you make changes, not them, and what changes they made to the car in terms of feel.
Ok. I know camber affects toe somehow. when you bring camber in, does it bring toe in or bring toe out?

I'd like to have some toe in on the street because toe 0 is such a pain.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #14464
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Ok. I know camber affects toe somehow. when you bring camber in, does it bring toe in or bring toe out?

I'd like to have some toe in on the street because toe 0 is such a pain.
On th e46 m3 you NEVER want toe in, always toe out. having toe in will drastically increase initial turn in understeer on the street and track. Reducing negative camber brings the toe in (+), and increasing negative camber brings toe out (-).
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:22 PM   #14465
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perfect. Ill allign to 0 toe at street camber then. gracias.

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Old 03-14-2012, 07:23 PM   #14466
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I just got the diff out, took all of 30 minutes. Can't wait to drive this thing again.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:43 PM   #14467
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:10 PM   #14468
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Perk, txt me if you need a hand, im off thur-sat
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:43 AM   #14469
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Yeah, I don't think it will bother me to much since I don't drive it much on the street.

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I've been working on it a little bit here and there and I'll probably have the diff back in today or Friday. I will still have to button everything up though and do a few more things before I can take it for a drive. You're more than welcome to come hang out and help Saturday.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:58 AM   #14470
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Yeah, I don't think it will bother me to much since I don't drive it much on the street.
True. Your car is going to drive very differnetly with all the stuff you've been doing this winter.

Did you get your seat yet?
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:53 AM   #14471
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True. Your car is going to drive very differnetly with all the stuff you've been doing this winter.

Did you get your seat yet?
I know, I'm kinda anxious and nervous. It will be a whole new/different car.

No, I guess the seat wont be here till the end of the month. Not sure why.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:12 PM   #14472
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Yeah, I don't think it will bother me to much since I don't drive it much on the street.



I've been working on it a little bit here and there and I'll probably have the diff back in today or Friday. I will still have to button everything up though and do a few more things before I can take it for a drive. You're more than welcome to come hang out and help Saturday.
Sounds good. Hopefully the stang gets sold this weekend!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:58 PM   #14473
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My diff was just delivered, I can't freaking wait to get this thing in and get the car back on the ground.

I just had a great idea for next winter. My plan is to get a cage built and fully welded in and I want to paint in some obnoxiously bright color. I just got the idea of powdercoating every part I can in a matching color, just cause.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:35 PM   #14474
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:56 PM   #14475
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:41 PM   #14476
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Ok. I know camber affects toe somehow. when you bring camber in, does it bring toe in or bring toe out?

I'd like to have some toe in on the street because toe 0 is such a pain.
Just run a a little toe in on the front like 1/16th and it will do to toe out when you adjust your camber plates for the track. for the rear I run 3/16ths toe in on the track and street.

I just had Kendall do a alignment of -3deg all around and 1/16th toe in front and 3/16th in on the rear and its awesome.

Then on the track I will just move the plates to -4deg on the front and leave the rear.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:47 PM   #14477
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Just run a a little toe in on the front like 1/16th and it will do to toe out when you adjust your camber plates for the track. for the rear I run 3/16ths toe in on the track and street.

I just had Kendall do a alignment of -3deg all around and 1/16th toe in front and 3/16th in on the rear and its awesome.

Then on the track I will just move the plates to -4deg on the front and leave the rear.
I still say you NEVER want toe in, on the street or track.
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:49 PM   #14478
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I still say you NEVER want toe in, on the street or track.
why?
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:29 PM   #14479
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I spoke with Kevin on the phone and I need to clarify something. If you care about a comfortable ride or tire wear please do not ask me questions. Now if you care about performance then ask me all the questions you want.

With that disclaimer said, first of all I meant I would NEVER recommend toe in in the front. Toe in is appropriate and needed for the rear. Toe in in the front will reduce tramlinning but in all situations, track or street, will increase understeer. Toe in front will increase understeer toe in rear increases oversteer. Increased oversteer in the rear (to a degree) is a good thing because it helps rotate the car.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:49 AM   #14480
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Andy-

You just have to remember...Ricky Bobby (BRAD) is all about absolute speed and nothing else. Hot nasty bad asz speed!

on the other hand I have to drive my car on the street with out it wondering or burning through tires in 3k miles!

Are you doing to do the BMW DE event? Anyone else?
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