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Old 09-17-2012, 09:34 PM   #16101
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Its not that they don't let you...it's that you shouldn't.

With the E46M3 there was a 1200 mile break in and they said you shouldn't rev past 5500rpms and nothing over 105mph. There was even a decal on the window reminding you. This was even for the bearing recall so you had to do it twice for original owners.

I didn't make it 1200 miles, but I did it for 700 miles or so then I raced a M3 on the highway to 145...
Weren't your dyno numbers a little low? I still need to get my car on a dyno...
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:35 AM   #16102
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Weren't your dyno numbers a little low? I still need to get my car on a dyno...
You call 305rwhp low? thats with only headers and tune.

I did 280 stock.

My low numbers were with that magnaflow exhaust and intake...and then it hit 267ish.

Then I added headers and tune and got 285. Then I took off the magnaflow and intake and got 300+ multiple times and the highest/last was 305rwhp
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I lied. It was 287 stock.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...highlight=dyno
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:45 AM   #16104
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Then 276 with Intake and exhaust

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...highlight=dyno


Then 289 when I added headers

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...highlight=dyno
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:36 PM   #16105
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I have the magnaflow and AP gen 1 headers on my car right now, and I have that K&N intake but its not installed. Idk how my car will do. it feels strong and kept up with brad ok.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:49 PM   #16106
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I have the magnaflow and AP gen 1 headers on my car right now, and I have that K&N intake but its not installed. Idk how my car will do. it feels strong and kept up with brad ok.
So my guess is you would do in the 285 range. That exhaust is....

How did you keep up with Brad? His car with the power/weight ratio is like your car having 420+hp!
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You call 305rwhp low?
Yes. Shits weak.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:03 PM   #16108
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So my guess is you would do in the 285 range. That exhaust is....

How did you keep up with Brad? His car with the power/weight ratio is like your car having 420+hp!
I woundt say I kept up. its was like a 30-70 pull and he was pulling away. he saw and commented that he was suprised that I was hanging on that well
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I woundt say I kept up. its was like a 30-70 pull and he was pulling away. he saw and commented that he was suprised that I was hanging on that well
Yeah I wouldn't say kept up, I was surprised though by how close you were but then again I wouldn't say 30-70 is where my car shines. I would guess that from 30-120 I would be pretty far gone. Should have put that to the test.
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not anywhere in overland park

I lifted, you kept going to "140"
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I lifted, you kept going to "140"
Wat u mean brah, I was in Mexico that night.
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Pretty cool video. Didn't learn much, Brad's pretty much told us about the amazing benefits of solid mounts, r-comps, and weight reduction. I'm kinda surprised that that car doesn't have the DCT.

But I think that presenter learned and explained the balance of BMW M3's pretty well. That's one of my favorite overall aspects of the car.
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Pretty cool video. Didn't learn much, Brad's pretty much told us about the amazing benefits of solid mounts, r-comps, and weight reduction. I'm kinda surprised that that car doesn't have the DCT.

But I think that presenter learned and explained the balance of BMW M3's pretty well. That's one of my favorite overall aspects of the car.
That's a pretty cool vid, I enjoyed it. That's their Conti GS car and was built before they released the DCT. Not sure if their Rolex GT car is a DCT, I know ALMS cars are oem DCT.

I am so jealous he got to drive that car.

The power is only 400 and with it being 3300+ lbs I doubt their GS car is faster than my e46. That makes me
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While procrastinating over homework, I'll talk a little about the DCT in the E92 M3 that my dad test drove. (I didn't get to drive.) Baron did have access to any dealer ones, but their financial manager just took delivery on one. They were nice enough to ask him to let one of their sales guys demo it and let my dad drive it. It was a competition package with the carbon fiber roof and it had the DCT trans. Just as a passenger, the car felt a little more loose and soft than my E46 (!), but the ride firmed up really well with the shocks in sport mode. Ride in non-sport mode was great. Maybe a little softer than a Porsche. (For the record... although I've never driven a car with the feature, I just don't think equipping a car with super soft springs and then relying on the shocks to firm up the ride is the right way to do things... but it seemed to work well)

I learned alot about the DCT. It will roll around hills in neutral like a manual, but when you get off the brakes it will hold the car in place for 3 seconds so it doesn't roll back on hills. If you want to crawl forward like a torque converter car you just give the throttle a quick stab and the car rolls forward on its own. In most of the transmission settings, the shifts are nearly imperceptible: on par with a smooth automatic. Its weird how fast and smooth it shifts. Only when you put the car in sport plus or M mode or some stupid mode like that does it really slam into gears. Downshifts are perfect and amazing in every way. The salesmen in the car with us said something like you can rev match yourself if you want to, but I don't know why you would. I may not have understood what he was saying. He wasn't the most educated on actually driving cars... more like just their standard features. On that note...

For some reason he decided to start the test drive with him driving. Kinda weird... never had that happen on a test drive. He said it was to orient my dad to the car, maybe because it was an employee's personal vehicle. Anyway, he gets in and gets on the highway. We go for a while till we get to a big cambered off ramp. (635 north to merriam drive exit). Before the ramp he flys through traffic, hitting 90 mph. I was in the back seat and watching the speedo--I know he hit 90. By this time the transmission was in manual. As we near the turn in point he brakes lightly to probably 75-80. He turns in, THEN downshifts to 3rd gear... as we're taking a pretty tight turn. The instant the rev's went up for the downshift I thought we were going to crash. I though I was gonna die. However, amazingly, the transmission dropped the clutch at the precisely correct instant and the downshift was completed extremely smoothly. If it would have been a rougher shift there is no doubt in my mind that the rear tires would have lost grip and we would have slid off the outside of that exit.

Now, as amazing as those computers are, I'm still not sure how much I like them. The transmission is AWESOME. No question about it. But, the E9X has a "Power" button too. It has the same function as the "Sport" button in E46 cars. It changes throttle response from soft to sharper. However it actually has like 5 different settings, and they all change based on the "M" mode that the car is in, or the transmission setting selected... all this other junk. In a 414hp car, I would want only ONE throttle setting... normal. Much more than one and it'll be very difficult to have a really good feeling for the inputs. At the end of the drive, my dad brought the car to a stop, ensured that everything was in the most comfy and least aggressive setting, and floored it. What happened? It pulled from the line with only moderate haste... similar to maybe just a little more than quick traffic.

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While procrastinating over homework, I'll talk a little about the DCT in the E92 M3 that my dad test drove. (I didn't get to drive.) Baron did have access to any dealer ones, but their financial manager just took delivery on one. They were nice enough to ask him to let one of their sales guys demo it and let my dad drive it. It was a competition package with the carbon fiber roof and it had the DCT trans. Just as a passenger, the car felt a little more loose and soft than my E46 (!), but the ride firmed up really well with the shocks in sport mode. Ride in non-sport mode was great. Maybe a little softer than a Porsche. (For the record... although I've never driven a car with the feature, I just don't think equipping a car with super soft springs and then relying on the shocks to firm up the ride is the right way to do things... but it seemed to work well)

I learned alot about the DCT. It will roll around hills in neutral like a manual, but when you get off the brakes it will hold the car in place for 3 seconds so it doesn't roll back on hills. If you want to crawl forward like a torque converter car you just give the throttle a quick stab and the car rolls forward on its own. In most of the transmission settings, the shifts are nearly imperceptible: on par with a smooth automatic. Its weird how fast and smooth it shifts. Only when you put the car in sport plus or M mode or some stupid mode like that does it really slam into gears. Downshifts are perfect and amazing in every way. The salesmen in the car with us said something like you can rev match yourself if you want to, but I don't know why you would. I may not have understood what he was saying. He wasn't the most educated on actually driving cars... more like just their standard features. On that note...

For some reason he decided to start the test drive with him driving. Kinda weird... never had that happen on a test drive. He said it was to orient my dad to the car, maybe because it was an employee's personal vehicle. Anyway, he gets in and gets on the highway. We go for a while till we get to a big cambered off ramp. (635 north to merriam drive exit). Before the ramp he flys through traffic, hitting 90 mph. I was in the back seat and watching the speedo--I know he hit 90. By this time the transmission was in manual. As we near the turn in point he brakes lightly to probably 75-80. He turns in, THEN downshifts to 3rd gear... as we're taking a pretty tight turn. The instant the rev's went up for the downshift I thought we were going to crash. I though I was gonna die. However, amazingly, the transmission dropped the clutch at the precisely correct instant and the downshift was completed extremely smoothly. If it would have been a rougher shift there is no doubt in my mind that the rear tires would have lost grip and we would have slid off the outside of that exit.

Now, as amazing as those computers are, I'm still not sure how much I like them. The transmission is AWESOME. No question about it. But, the E9X has a "Power" button too. It has the same function as the "Sport" button in E46 cars. It changes throttle response from soft to sharper. However it actually has like 5 different settings, and they all change based on the "M" mode that the car is in, or the transmission setting selected... all this other junk. In a 414hp car, I would want only ONE throttle setting... normal. Much more than one and it'll be very difficult to have a really good feeling for the inputs. At the end of the drive, my dad brought the car to a stop, ensured that everything was in the most comfy and least aggressive setting, and floored it. What happened? It pulled from the line with only moderate haste... similar to maybe just a little more than quick traffic.

Your dads not getting a dct/auto is he?

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