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Old 10-27-2012, 01:25 PM   #1
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Thumbs down just got back from getting an alignment. Nothing but bad news.

As said in the title, I'm just getting home. And I feel sick to my stomach. Replaced my own tie rods and went in to get it aligned and this is what came back.



the left one was seized (known this for a few months) but i Replaced them both since I found a deal on new lemforders. The guy at the shop didn't do a good job explaining what and or why. Maybe you guys can help. What us exactly wrong with this pic, which measurement is acceptable? Where should I start to fix this?
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:36 PM   #2
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You lost me. This is only the before. Did you get the car aligned yet, and where are those readings?
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:54 PM   #3
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Pay the shop to perform the alignment. Less the $100 and its good to go.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:39 PM   #4
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:46 PM   #5
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confused. it looks like you didn't do anything at all. and if that is after you got an alignment from the shop, go ask for your money back and go somewhere else.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:52 PM   #6
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I hope you did not pay to have it hooked up and measured, then, not pay to have it done. Half the work is the setup.

btw, looks like you need an alignment . . .
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:01 PM   #7
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Sorry for the confusion guys, I went to getone but the mechanic refused to touch it after these readings came out.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:02 PM   #8
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Wtf im confuse lol

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Old 10-27-2012, 03:05 PM   #9
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They didn't do an alignment, didn't pay anything. Put it on the machine and these were the results.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #10
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An alignment tech wouldn't touch ur alignment job because your camber and angles are way off? thats like saying an engine mechanic won't touch ur engine because its running poorly. Ridiculous.

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maybe guy not familiar with BMW alignment
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:13 PM   #12
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that maybe true but most independent shops either look at a BMW n work on it or go to say no we don't work on BMWs and we wouldn't even look at it in the first place. search around for different shop I say.

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If it is green, it is good.
Your front toe is way off, but that is becuase you just replaced tie rod ends. Did you tell the guy you just replaced them?
You can do a rough job of setting front toe in in your driveway. Adjust tie rod ends so the front of the tires are a little
closer together than the rear of the front ties (about 1/16-1/8 inch should get you close).

The big red flag I see is your left rear camber. It is grayed out. It appears it could not be measured.
This could be because something is broken/worn - or it could be something else.

You need to go back and get them to explain the problem to you. There must be a good reason they would not do the alignment. Usually it is becuase they cannot move a bolt, or, that something is too bent/worn to do a decent alignment. I'm surprised they did not give you a quote for required repairs.

Did you pay to have it checked? Was it the same place that told you they could not do it before due to frozen bolt?

You might want to consider taking it someplace else. Dare I suggest the dealer? Sure they charge more for an alignment but they usually know what they are doing and do a good job. I wouldn't drive your car much as is unless you like buying new tires.

Edit: looks like others typed while I was getting another beer. ignore the questions you have already answered . . .

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Went to Tire kingdom in Jax, FL. He said company policy wouldn't let him adjust it, don't throw fire at me guys I'm just the messenger lol. Said I was in need of some suspension parts, like i bent something when replacing the tie rod assembly. Kept asking if i locked the wheel etc. i followed the diy slowly in surely. sounds like he was trying to rip me of and get me out the door since I have a 1 year alignment plan that will be up in 4 months. I just want my car up to code. My steering wheel is cocked slightly to the left, so there is obviously an alignment problem. Where should I start to get to the bottom of
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No its was a different location from the one that told me I had a seized tie rod. I can confirm it was seized, had to cut out in half to take off the rubber boot.
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Very confusing. Tech wouldn't touch it because it was so far off? I'm sure you explained that you replaced your tie rods...

Some of the numbers seem far enough off that maybe it frightened the tech and he and/or the shop didn't want to be responsible for fixing the alignment after doing it. Some of the numbers are so far off that they maybe also thought there is other damage that needs to be fixed for them to bring it into alignment.

But I'm guessing...they should have explained that.

As far as I know, caster isn't really adjustable.

Anyway, maybe someone that isn't just guessing can advise you better, but I'd call and get explanation from shop...and based on that, probably bring it to another shop.

Don't be sick. It's only an alignment...can't be that bad news...or your life is otherwise blessed! LOL
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I will be doing that, don't got the time right now.
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Cross posted...

I wonder if the 1 year alignment plan doesn't include people doing work and then bring it in. Usually that would mean that if the alignment got knocked out within a year, they'd redo it. Not if you 'knocked it out.'

Steering wheel will get straightened when they adjust toe properly. They get the toe right and the wheel straight by adjusting tie rods...don't let them con you on that. If done right...car will go straight and steering wheel will be level.

I think it's because they maybe want you to pay again or something. If they think suspension members are bent, they should be able to tell you what they suspect.
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I wonder if the 1 year alignment plan doesn't include people doing work and then bring it in. Usually that would mean that if the alignment got knocked out within a year, they'd redo it. Not if you 'knocked it out.'

Steering wheel will get straightened when they adjust toe properly. They get the toe right and the wheel straight by adjusting tie rods...don't let them con you on that. If done right...car will go straight and steering wheel will be level.

I think it's because they maybe want you to pay again or something. If they think suspension members are bent, they should be able to tell you what they suspect.
Seems like some of those locations are shady. Called a few asking my plan was void since I installed myself in the middle of my plan. Half said yes, doesn't matter if they, another shop, or I myself work on it. The other half said no, it voids.
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