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Old 03-14-2010, 09:43 AM   #101
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Raceland is a fairly new company (unlike H&R for example) and right now they are also selling sway bars and headers as well as exhaust piping for newer BMWs so I'm sure they are only going to become bigger from this point.
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I just laugh at the bad things people have to say about them, and wonder if they know enough about them to judge them.
And this. It is funny when people critique things that they've never seen first hand....
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:24 PM   #102
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Same thing with RLs.
I just laugh at the bad things people have to say about them, and wonder if they know enough about them to judge them.
RLs suck.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:25 PM   #103
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I just wonder if Raceland knows how controversial their product is over here haha.
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It's not really controversial. Just over-hyped/a bunch of little girls bickering about a cheap suspension product.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:44 PM   #107
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Until you have something to contradict this, they're great for what they are.
I think there is an echo......

As for kpengs reputable suspension company......... yea we will be waiting for the proof.

Kpeng I dont know why you feel as if I threaten or attack you I'm just calling your B*ll Sh*t as I read it and I feel you get a bit sour when steps on your toes to call your bluff.

Almost every person who has commented that Racelands are poor have heard or read about it.

Just make its simple......all the people who don't have heard there sh*t put your money together and buy one set, then pass the kit around, run the kit through this "reputable suspension company"........hell try to break them.

Then..............you will have a TRUE review or comment on the install, ride quality, durability or whatever you feel needs to be said.

I will wait for a real review not some ego driven "public announcement"
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:27 PM   #110
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I think there is an echo......

As for kpengs reputable suspension company......... yea we will be waiting for the proof.

Kpeng I dont know why you feel as if I threaten or attack you I'm just calling your B*ll Sh*t as I read it and I feel you get a bit sour when steps on your toes to call your bluff.

Almost every person who has commented that Racelands are poor have heard or read about it.

Just make its simple......all the people who don't have heard there sh*t put your money together and buy one set, then pass the kit around, run the kit through this "reputable suspension company"........hell try to break them.

Then..............you will have a TRUE review or comment on the install, ride quality, durability or whatever you feel needs to be said.

I will wait for a real review not some ego driven "public announcement"
Did you not see or are you just ignoring Seth (bimmer07)s post? Seth works at a performance shop, has been heavily involved in the BMW and racing scene for years, and knows more than I could ever hope to learn about performance parts. They did a test of the Raceland Coils from a performance perspective and we've already seen the pic of the shock which snapped at the support from daily driving . Put those two together, and you get a product of shoddy quality (at best) which also has crummy performance specs.

I'm not here to bash on raceland products simply because they are cheap. I had a replica hamann shift knob back in the day which I later replaced with the authentic version as I thought the fake was crummy (uncomfortable, ugly, etc)... I also bought a set of replica hamann pedals which, to this day, I still have in place. Reason being, they, in my opinion, look better than the real ones and do their job just as well as the real deal would. So, cheaper products aren't always bad. But, these coilovers perform a vital job both for you safe and others on the road. It's far more dangerous to skimp on the costs when it is such a crucial part of your vehicle. Would you buy knock off tires that looked like Goodyears or Pirellis but were "questionable at best" from a quality perspective? How about a replica BBK that cost 200 bucks? Big brakes are sexy and all... who cares if they don' work so well right?

If it was just your own safety, that would be one thing. But you are literally putting other motorists in danger running such an unproven product which has such a questionable reputation... and all for a "slammed look" which could also be derived from lowering springs for just a little more money.

Again, not bashing... i just hate how the fanboys are so rude to anybody, regardless of qualifications or knowledge if they say anything negative...
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Did you not see or are you just ignoring Seth (bimmer07)s post? Seth works at a performance shop, has been heavily involved in the BMW and racing scene for years, and knows more than I could ever hope to learn about performance parts. They did a test of the Raceland Coils from a performance perspective and we've already seen the pic of the shock which snapped at the support from daily driving . Put those two together, and you get a product of shoddy quality (at best) which also has crummy performance specs.

I'm not here to bash on raceland products simply because they are cheap. I had a replica hamann shift knob back in the day which I later replaced with the authentic version as I thought the fake was crummy (uncomfortable, ugly, etc)... I also bought a set of replica hamann pedals which, to this day, I still have in place. Reason being, they, in my opinion, look better than the real ones and do their job just as well as the real deal would. So, cheaper products aren't always bad. But, these coilovers perform a vital job both for you safe and others on the road. It's far more dangerous to skimp on the costs when it is such a crucial part of your vehicle. Would you buy knock off tires that looked like Goodyears or Pirellis but were "questionable at best" from a quality perspective? How about a replica BBK that cost 200 bucks? Big brakes are sexy and all... who cares if they don' work so well right?

If it was just your own safety, that would be one thing. But you are literally putting other motorists in danger running such an unproven product which has such a questionable reputation... and all for a "slammed look" which could also be derived from lowering springs for just a little more money.

Again, not bashing... i just hate how the fanboys are so rude to anybody, regardless of qualifications or knowledge if they say anything negative...
I thought you wrote BBS at first...I was going to say Linea Corse.../thread

Then I re-read
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:21 PM   #112
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Did you not see or are you just ignoring Seth (bimmer07)s post? Seth works at a performance shop...They did a test of the Raceland Coils from a performance perspective and we've already seen the pic of the shock which snapped at the support from daily driving . Put those two together, and you get a product of shoddy quality (at best) which also has crummy performance specs......
I may have missed this thread.
Would you give a link to what you're talking about?

I didn't know there was a RLs that snapped.
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:26 PM   #113
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I may have missed this thread.
Would you give a link to what you're talking about?

I didn't know there was a RLs that snapped.
Seth works for RRT. That's the company that I was referring to. I guess since Chase basically let it out of the bag, I'll just say it. They will be posting something soon.
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Old 03-15-2010, 02:48 AM   #115
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nope not taking any cars there anymore. ive driven there 5 times now. time before last i rolled a ford explorer there. fvcking gravel roads.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:08 AM   #116
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Yes yes, keep calling me an idiot and a retard The proof is coming.
proof is coming ??? 5 or 10 years ago ???KPEng !!! I am not againts you or in RL ...Just Show us your proof ,before you post any negative feed.

I just have a STOCK SPRINGS no H&R or RL ...you GUYS are freaking me out ...PEACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:32 AM   #117
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readings from a shock dyno also show that said shocks are softer than a set of stock e46 m3 shocks

from what i've seen the quality of the welds on the lower rear shock mounts is shoddy at best, can you imagine what may happen if/when these welds give out while driving
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yes it was done a few months ago hence where i got the information that the dampening is softer than stock e46 m3 shocks

and the actual spring rates varied from advertised
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Did you not see or are you just ignoring Seth (bimmer07)s post? Seth works at a performance shop, has been heavily involved in the BMW and racing scene for years, and knows more than I could ever hope to learn about performance parts. They did a test of the Raceland Coils from a performance perspective and we've already seen the pic of the shock which snapped at the support from daily driving . Put those two together, and you get a product of shoddy quality (at best) which also has crummy performance specs.
, so wheres the results? because being " a little softer than M3 shocks" doesn't sound as death defying as you guys make it out to be...

wheres the broken shock from DD? bimmer07 sure didn't mention it in his very brief analysis of the shock dyno, seems like it was pretty uneventful..

where the thread with al the "bad news", this was done months ago right?


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.....They did a test of the Raceland Coils from a performance perspective....
Not directed towards you, but you were the last person I saw that said it.

Since when has everyone on this board been solely performance oriented? Haven't half of you guys realized that this board is constantly flooded with threads on spacers, poke, lips, streched tires and bumper fitment questions.

Unless someone can prove that these coilovers are faulty and dangerous then they are just talking useless ****. A LOT of people on this board just want to look good and aren't worried about going max velocity around a neighborhood corner in their daily driver.

Yes, having expensive suspension is nice. But, for me, occassionaly I get tired of a stiff ride and the constant neck pains and fear of hitting a bump on the highway. Maybe this is their alternative.

Basically what it boils down to is the whole "all show, no go" modification that I think that every last person in this thread has at least one of.
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I wonder what happens when Racelands fail and you cause an accident and the insurance company finds out. Since the raceland company stated that they are for offroad use only, I would imagine the insurance company not to cover any damages. That would definitely be the case in Germany and I would wonder if this would differ in the States.

I can understand buying a set of these coilovers for show cars that get rolled on and off of stage. I mean why pay for a PSS10 kit if you just want some slammage. But on public roads?
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I wonder what happens when Racelands fail and you cause an accident and the insurance company finds out. Since the raceland company stated that they are for offroad use only, I would imagine the insurance company not to cover any damages. That would definitely be the case in Germany and I would wonder if this would differ in the States.

I can understand buying a set of these coilovers for show cars that get rolled on and off of stage. I mean why pay for a PSS10 kit if you just want some slammage. But on public roads?
you have to understand, NUMEROUS aftermarket products, not just these coilovers say that on the box. Tons of the lighting products everyone buys says the same thing. So many people on this forum act like RL coilovers are the only product to say offroad use only.
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