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Old 03-15-2010, 07:33 PM   #1
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hey all, i'm looking at getting some 18inch CSL style wheels on my stock 330ci, looking at VMR's. my one question is i'm sure the typically asked one. through searching i believe i know the answer but just figured i'd ask since search did not come up with my exact setup as most people seem to run staggered. i am not running staggered and with a 225/40 or maybe a 235/40 tire all around on these rims with 40 offset and 8.5 inch width will there be any issues with rubbing? my 330ci is stock, though i'd like to keep the option of lowering at some point if possible. like i said, i believe the answer is no, but i'm not fully versed in wheel mathematics (offsets and such) so to me 8.5 inch seems pretty wide compared to the 7 inch stock rims.
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*edit* would it be/ look that much better to go staggered? what do people think? i'v read staggered technically isn't the best for handling, rather is better for strait line. I hardly ever track the car, though do enjoy spirited drives on winding roads lol. pretty much never drag race. for daily driving i'd like to keep as close as possible to stock economy, given going larger rims will change that somewhat but if staggered look hurts it more the look isn't really enough for me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:53 PM   #2
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235/40/18 on 18X8.5 ET40 will fit without issue.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:03 PM   #4
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thanks for the quick info hamadyr. ///M3m, i'm in Rockville, this is my first bimmer and man i love it. these rims are just the tip of the iceberg for what i hope to do this spring. nice to meet someone else from md.
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18x8.5 ET40 with a 225/40/18 or 235/40/18 will fit just fine all around without any rubbing issues.
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*edit* would it be/ look that much better to go staggered? what do people think? i'v read staggered technically isn't the best for handling, rather is better for strait line. I hardly ever track the car, though do enjoy spirited drives on winding roads lol. pretty much never drag race. for daily driving i'd like to keep as close as possible to stock economy, given going larger rims will change that somewhat but if staggered look hurts it more the look isn't really enough for me.
If you are going for looks, Staggered would be more ideal since it does offer a more aggressive rear stance and wider tire. Most track guys will go with a Non-Stagg setup. If you plan on keeping the wheels/tires as long as you can, Non-Staggered will be better for tire rotation and maximum life.

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Old 03-16-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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18" Staggered would look great!



I tried to find you some 18" on a 2005 black coupe but all I had were these 19" on a prefacelift



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ill show you what your car would look like, ive got the 18's staggered on your exact car. ill take pics later
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:11 PM   #10
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I have your exact setup.
I have a set of 18 x 8.5 ET 40 CSL replicas all around on a stock sport suspension, 2004 330ci.
I had a set of General Exclaim UHP tires 235/40/18 on them all around with no rubbing issues.
I replaced those last summer with a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics 245/35/18 all around with no rubbing issues
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he has a 330
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:10 PM   #12
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thanks for the info and pictures, they do look good. kinda thinking i'll go non stag, though staggered does look good. whats the opinion on those tire sizes i mentioned? i like the 225 for the fact that its almost exact speedometer wise compared to stock, but that would limit the tires i can get, as some will be pretty stretched on the 8.5 width. the 235 allow a little more rubber to the road, and i guess the're not that much different about 1mph slow at 60 if i'm correct. of course the bmw speedometer always seems to error a little on the slow side anyway, so may not be that noticeable. IDK. thanks again everyone.
f t s, what do you think of the eagle F1's? was looking at those.
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I wen't with staggered 18's and it looks, drives, handles great. I don't track the car or anything but I'm very happy. If you want to go non-staggered (or staggered) check out Eurowheels Pro as you can do 18x8 et35 all around which is a better fit for the stock diameter 225/40/18 tire size that 18x8.5.

You can see pics of mine here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=730258
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I have less than 1K on the tires so I can't say anything about the tread life. Other than that, they are everything I read about them. On the positive side, they provide great traction wet or dry, even in cool temperatures (40F). They really are very impressive on wet pavement, confidence inspiring even. When they do begin to slide it is gradual and predictable unlike the General UHPs that tended to "snap" loose especially in cooler temperatures. They have a nice firm sidewall for quick positive steering input but they still provide a very smooth and comfortable ride.

The only negatives I have noticed are the "flat spotting" issue I heard some talk about. The amount of flat spotting is related to the time the car is parked and at what temperature. I haven't figured out the pattern yet, sometimes I notice it, most times I don't. As the tire warms up during driving it goes away, usually in about 5 miles at highway speeds. They also produce a little very low frequency noise, sort of a low rumble. It's not very noticeable, just not 100% quiet like they were when brand new.
I think it is partially or even entirely related to the flat spotting issue. Something for me to listen too when I put them back on the car.

Both the noise and flat spotting diminish, almost entirely, in the warm summer temperatures and the tire/ride becomes really smooth. They are superior in every way compared to the General UHPs except price and I think they are better than the Michelin PS1 that came with the car, but that was a long time ago (they do not have the extreme tramlining issues the PS1's did). I have never driven on the PS2 so I can't compare it to them.
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thanks for the review f t s, looking at them and the ps2's, and a couple others. haven't decided yet. those two seem to have good reviews on tire rack.
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i know nothing about offsets and tire stuff i just wanna know if a set VMR V715 19 8.5 front and 19 by 9.5 rear will fit my stock 330i without rubbing.
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i know nothing about offsets and tire stuff i just wanna know if a set VMR V715 19 8.5 front and 19 by 9.5 rear will fit my stock 330i without rubbing.
Yes it will 19x8.5 / 19x9.5 et45 is what you need! What finish are you interested?





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i know nothing about offsets and tire stuff i just wanna know if a set VMR V715 19 8.5 front and 19 by 9.5 rear will fit my stock 330i without rubbing.
Yes, they are available in the correct offsets for your car.
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im looking at the gunmetal....but i also want to do lowering springs will that be possible with the rims? and how much is shipping normally?
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im looking at the gunmetal....but i also want to do lowering springs will that be possible with the rims? and how much is shipping normally?
You can easily run lowering springs with these wheels. I suggest the H&R Sports which will drop the car and firm up the suspension without being too harsh for daily use. Drop me a PM and I can quote you on a package.
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