E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Tuning & Tech > Motorsports & Track Forum by BimmerWorld

Motorsports & Track Forum by BimmerWorld
From Auto-X to Trackday to Racing and Professional Motorsports this is the place to discuss making BMWs fast
Sponsored by BimmerWorld

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 07-05-2011, 09:52 AM   #21
lowrider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Alamitos, CA
Posts: 702
My Ride: modified 323Ci
Send a message via AIM to lowrider
Gonna revive this old thread because I have a question. Looking at the TMS oil filter housing with the two 10-AN fittings installed in it, is it important to use one as a supply and the other as a return? Basically, is there a direction of flow?

I am gonna be pulling my oil filter housing to replace the gasket and might as well machine in some fittings for future oil cooler.

__________________
Photobucket

Picture courtesy of EAS
lowrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 08:06 PM   #22
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
For reference I was getting to about 265f on my oil after only 25 minutes at NHMS (78f ambient). I didn't notice any loss in power but I wasn't really paying attention to power all that much. Although the non-m's shouldn't 'need it' if you plan on tracking the car regularly I believe it is a sound investment.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 02:21 PM   #23
mrshelley
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 914
My Ride: 2004 330i
If you are going to run a cooler, does it really make a difference which way it flows?
__________________
mrshelley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 03:26 PM   #24
lowrider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Alamitos, CA
Posts: 702
My Ride: modified 323Ci
Send a message via AIM to lowrider
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrshelley View Post
If you are going to run a cooler, does it really make a difference which way it flows?
My point is, I want to make sure it flows and not just sit inside the piping of the cooler haha
__________________
Photobucket

Picture courtesy of EAS
lowrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2011, 03:08 PM   #25
mrshelley
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 914
My Ride: 2004 330i
If you look at the pic posted and look at your stock housing, it'll be obvious how to machine it.
__________________
mrshelley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2011, 03:37 PM   #26
lowrider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Alamitos, CA
Posts: 702
My Ride: modified 323Ci
Send a message via AIM to lowrider
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrshelley View Post
If you look at the pic posted and look at your stock housing, it'll be obvious how to machine it.
Well yes. Okay I think everyone is missing the point, so I'll post up pictures of the hydraulic circuit when I complete the install which should hopefully explain the flow of the system
__________________
Photobucket

Picture courtesy of EAS
lowrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2011, 06:15 PM   #27
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Just ran three days at Watkins Glen, ambient temps from 85f-90f. Oil was running up to 300f pretty quickly while coolant was sitting around 94c. I couldn't run the car that hard and I was getting relatively low pressure, ended up baking the oil twice so I did two oil changes throughout the three days and still didn't run four sessions. Time for an oil cooler, pan baffle, and oil pump update...
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2011, 01:25 AM   #28
SpeedDemon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,939
My Ride: 08 M3/05 ZHP/08 R32
I'd love if someone could tackle this. I get horrible performance out at the track due to my oil temps getting too high.
SpeedDemon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2011, 06:04 PM   #29
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedDemon View Post
I'd love if someone could tackle this. I get horrible performance out at the track due to my oil temps getting too high.
I'm planning on buying a used M54 oil filter housing and having a local shop machine -10 AN fittings into it and still allowing for the stock temp sensor. If there's enough demand, I'll do a group buy of 10 of them. Just buy some lines and a Setrab (or whatever) cooler and this can be done without spending too much money. Nice thing about this is no extra banjo bolt, no alternator spacer, and no relocating the power steering pump.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2011, 10:04 PM   #30
SpeedDemon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,939
My Ride: 08 M3/05 ZHP/08 R32
I'm definitely interested. How much $$$ do you think we're talking? I'd love to run long sessions and not feel like I'm driving a 318 by the end.
SpeedDemon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 05:12 PM   #31
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedDemon View Post
I'm definitely interested. How much $$$ do you think we're talking? I'd love to run long sessions and not feel like I'm driving a 318 by the end.
I am estimating $300-350 for a modified used housing and $500-$600 for a modified new housing. I'll have more definite estimates after I get the first one done.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2011, 09:57 PM   #32
bigjae1976
Registered User
 
bigjae1976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Earth
Posts: 11,465
My Ride: A car
Send a message via MSN to bigjae1976
Where will you tap the housing for the AN ports?
bigjae1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2011, 10:19 AM   #33
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjae1976 View Post
Where will you tap the housing for the AN ports?
You shall see I expect to make only one tap in the actual housing, and one in the Banjo bolt that goes in the housing.

The only problem with this route is going to be an inline thermostat. I could use the Mocal one from Pegausus but it is expensive. Anyone know of a cheaper alternative? We'll see what I can come up with.

EDIT: Would it be sensible to run the lines to shutoff valves mounted somewhere in the engine bay that is easily accessible and then just turn them on during track days as that's the only time you would really need it?

Last edited by MasterC17; 09-11-2011 at 11:32 AM.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2011, 10:41 PM   #34
mrshelley
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 914
My Ride: 2004 330i
HRP sells a thermostat for $65. To me, that's pretty cheap. It has 1/2" NPT fittings, so you could adapt it to whatever you want or need.
Thermostat
They also have -10 to 1/2" NPT fittings for $3.75 each.
__________________
mrshelley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2011, 04:37 PM   #35
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrshelley View Post
HRP sells a thermostat for $65. To me, that's pretty cheap. It has 1/2" NPT fittings, so you could adapt it to whatever you want or need.
Thermostat
They also have -10 to 1/2" NPT fittings for $3.75 each.
That's probably the route I will end up taking.

Having the oil filter housing machined late this week/early next week.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 04:52 PM   #36
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
OFH is coming in Monday, having it machined probably Tuesday.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2011, 05:45 PM   #37
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Ok, received oil filter housing today. I have a few questions.

1. Is it just me or does this look like a thermostat in the oil filter housing?



2. Anyone know what tool I need to get these plugs off?

MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 04:34 PM   #38
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Received cooler, lines, and fittings today. I haven't actually had a chance to get the housing machined yet (crazy at work), but I will be doing it soon. Now just waiting on the inline thermostat and some adapters. Ended up going with -10 AN lines.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2011, 12:30 PM   #39
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowrider View Post
Gonna revive this old thread because I have a question. Looking at the TMS oil filter housing with the two 10-AN fittings installed in it, is it important to use one as a supply and the other as a return? Basically, is there a direction of flow?

I am gonna be pulling my oil filter housing to replace the gasket and might as well machine in some fittings for future oil cooler.

Does someone mind answering this, I don't want to screw it up. I'm guessing the old oil pressure port is supply and the fittings next to the old temperature sensor port is return?
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 09:37 AM   #40
MasterC17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 585
My Ride: hates A/C & Sunroofs
Late, I know, but I finally got down to the machine shop, will have the ofh back sometime next week. Already have the cooler and lines.
MasterC17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use