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Old 03-22-2010, 10:44 AM   #1
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KONI STR.T do not work well with sport package

I have a 2000 328i with sport pkg and I installed Koni STR.T's on the front of the car and now with the M-Tech springs the car is sitting about 1.5-2 inches higher. I just wanted to let anyone know if they were going to use them. They work well but the ride height is a big problem. I have yet to install rears. Have a great day.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:15 PM   #2
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That's because you didn't seat the front strut all the way down into the collar (FWIW, I did it as well the first time I installed suspension on an E46, but it's an easy fix)

(or you got the wrong strut sent to you )
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Old 03-23-2010, 09:53 PM   #3
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I have worked on many cars before, it is not a install error. That is not the case. I noticed the problem before I installed them on the car. The Koni's are longer then the BMW struts..
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:19 AM   #4
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maybe they will settle. wait a week or so maybe
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:03 AM   #5
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That's because you didn't seat the front strut all the way down into the collar (FWIW, I did it as well the first time I installed suspension on an E46, but it's an easy fix)

(or you got the wrong strut sent to you )
he is correct
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:08 AM   #6
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I'm not doubting your knowledge of working on cars or anything man, but it definitely sounds like an install error. It happens. Just go back and check to make sure they're seated in the collar properly.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:36 PM   #7
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Before anyone else says anything incorrect lets look at some quick facts.

Koni sells the Yellow's in two versions, one for sport package and one without sport package.
Koni sells only one version of the STR.T for all models.
BMW sport package struts (M-tech) are shorter then non-sport package struts.

I am thinking the one size fits all STR.T's are the same length as the non-sport pkg struts.
I have triple checked the install, I used to work as a Honda Factory Tech so its safe to say its not a install error.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:28 AM   #8
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BUMP for Update? Was thinking of doing this setup... First was going to install Koni Str.t with stock sport springs and later replace with h&r sport springs. Is this a bad idea?
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:31 PM   #9
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Yeah I need an update too sicne I bought the STRT for front and backs and will install them next weekend on a 2000 323ci - with sport suspension.
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:50 PM   #10
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I am going to take a few pics to show you guys how my car sits. I have a gap at the front that is inch higher than the rear. Chris
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Old 10-16-2010, 11:22 PM   #11
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Before anyone else says anything incorrect lets look at some quick facts.

Koni sells the Yellow's in two versions, one for sport package and one without sport package.
Koni sells only one version of the STR.T for all models.
BMW sport package struts (M-tech) are shorter then non-sport package struts.

I am thinking the one size fits all STR.T's are the same length as the non-sport pkg struts.
I have triple checked the install, I used to work as a Honda Factory Tech so its safe to say its not a install error.
First of all did you even go back and confirm that it was NOT an installed error?

Second of all BMW uses a bit more shocks that you think. Sport pack struts are NOT M-tech
BMW has these struts for non-m E46.
-non sport struts
-sport struts
-M-Sport struts/M-Packet 2
-M-Performance/Club Sport/ZHP
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:25 AM   #12
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100% I installed these koni's correctly. I have been a mechanic for 16 years. I triple checked the install.
My car is 2000 328i with sport package, premium package, xenons, manual transmission. When I removed the original shock/struts each one said M-tech on them. I am using the original sport pkg springs. When I compared the strut on the koni to the BMW strut I noticed the length is greater on the koni. From the bottom of the strut to the base of the spring its about inch longer on the koni.

Blocked out: you said "Sport pack struts are NOT M-tech" so what are M-tech struts?
I am not the original owner so maybe my struts were changed by a previous owner?
I am going to get some pics of my car up today. .
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100% I installed these koni's correctly. I have been a mechanic for 16 years. I triple checked the install.
My car is 2000 328i with sport package, premium package, xenons, manual transmission. When I removed the original shock/struts each one said M-tech on them. I am using the original sport pkg springs. When I compared the strut on the koni to the BMW strut I noticed the length is greater on the koni. From the bottom of the strut to the base of the spring its about inch longer on the koni.

Blocked out: you said "Sport pack struts are NOT M-tech" so what are M-tech struts?
I am not the original owner so maybe my struts were changed by a previous owner?
I am going to get some pics of my car up today. .
M-tech struts came on M-tech offered cars.

-Non sport struts were offered on all E46 from 1998 to 2006 they didnt change at all and were the same, offered on all non-sport E46
-Sport struts were offered from 1999 onwards and were an option for sars equipped with Sport Package.(Sport Pack and M-Tech pack are different)
-M-Sport struts/M-Packet 2/M-tech (1 and 2) were an option on early M-Tech 1 packaged cars (2001 330i M-tech 1 or a 2001 330ci M-Tech 2) and later came standard on M-Tech 2 cars (2002 and up)
-M-Performance/Club Sport/ZHP these only became available from 2003 and upwards and were only optional when one ordered a ZHP package or M-Performance or Club Sport, depending on where you live.

In other countries BMW had SOOOO many more models then in US that you cant possibly imagine.

Here is a M-tech 1 330i it would have M-Tech struts
photo
This car below would have the same struts as its a 2002 M-Tech 2 330i
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(this option was NEVER offered in US, US residence only saw M-Tech 2 option in 2003 for the sedan and in 2004 for coupe)

This car below would have ZHP/Club Sport/M-Performance struts, if it is infact a ZHP/Club Sport/M-Performance packaged car.

P4274263

At the end of the day it comes down to distinguishing ZHP/Club Sport/M-Performance from a M-Tech/M-Packet cars its hard for some one who has never seen one but its not that difficult.

Here is an example, ever seen a 325ci with factory M-Tech 2 pack?
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Old 10-17-2010, 02:45 PM   #14
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take a picture where the shock goes into the knuckle. and then we can see how low it is sitting. it should be hanging out the bottom
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:38 PM   #15
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I took some pics earlier today. I will try and get a pic of strut tomorrow. Let me know what you think.
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Stance looks good to me... looks equal to or slightly lower then stock sport ride height IMO
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Stance looks good to me... looks equal to or slightly lower then stock sport ride height IMO
This.

Are you sure your stock sports weren't just dead?
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M-tech struts came on M-tech offered cars.

-Non sport struts were offered on all E46 from 1998 to 2006 they didnt change at all and were the same, offered on all non-sport E46
-Sport struts were offered from 1999 onwards and were an option for sars equipped with Sport Package.(Sport Pack and M-Tech pack are different)
-M-Sport struts/M-Packet 2/M-tech (1 and 2) were an option on early M-Tech 1 packaged cars (2001 330i M-tech 1 or a 2001 330ci M-Tech 2) and later came standard on M-Tech 2 cars (2002 and up)
-M-Performance/Club Sport/ZHP these only became available from 2003 and upwards and were only optional when one ordered a ZHP package or M-Performance or Club Sport, depending on where you live.

In other countries BMW had SOOOO many more models then in US that you cant possibly imagine.
Realoem only shows two strut/shock options: Standard and Sport. I do not think there is any difference between the shocks in a sport package car and a ZHP/M-tech car.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:30 PM   #19
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I'm installing then this weekend also - but stance looks good to me
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