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Old 03-24-2010, 05:01 PM   #1
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H&R Race with non-sport suspension

Guys, I'm in trouble

I've bought recently a set o H&R Race springs to my sedan with stock, non-sport suspension. After change it looks even higher than I think H&R Sports would look like. I like the proportion : rear higher, front lower...but it's to high!

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but is there such difference between oem sport and non-sport suspension settings that it could be a problem in my case?

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Old 03-24-2010, 05:06 PM   #2
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Mine took about 2 weeks to settle, now the back is as low as the front. Don't fret!
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:13 PM   #3
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now the back is as low as the front
I hope it won't be like that

I just wonder what can settle there...it's just a spring in its right place to be...
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The H&R race springs will have some rake. Pictures would help.
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:20 PM   #5
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Pictures would help.
I know, but there won't be any within another 2 days
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Did you have to cut the bumpstop?
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Can you post some photos? The Race is a pretty aggressive drop and like DiscoStu mentioned, it does have a rake.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:37 PM   #8
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Im going to tell you right now dont expect your wheel gap to go away in the rear. I loved everything about the kit except that nasty rake.

........So I took it off and sold the kit for RLs now Im happy

And I even tried removing all the rear spring cushions to drop it more, I heard about a setup where you can take the rear set of H&R race springs for a e36 m3 and use them in the rear on our cars. I saw some pix and it looked good, just could't find a rear set of springs
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Im going to tell you right now dont expect your wheel gap to go away in the rear. I loved everything about the kit except that nasty rake.

........So I took it off and sold the kit for RLs now Im happy

And I even tried removing all the rear spring cushions to drop it more, I heard about a setup where you can take the rear set of H&R race springs for a e36 m3 and use them in the rear on our cars. I saw some pix and it looked good, just could't find a rear set of springs
So, you're going to think this is funny but your old kit is tucking my rear wheels.

I assembled the rear without the lower spring pad, and the car is still slightly raked. I have about a half finger gap up front and none in the rear. I love the height.
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dam you, one thing I realized the other day though. I that my car had sport suspension and the kit was for non sport.
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dam you, one thing I realized the other day though. I that my car had sport suspension and the kit was for non sport.
That is your issue, the part numbers are completely different so their are different "race springs" for sport and non sport. What shocks were you running? I'll assume you didn't buy the kit brand new, but how do the racelands stack up against your old H&Rs?
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dam you, one thing I realized the other day though. I that my car had sport suspension and the kit was for non sport.
It doesnt matter. They are the same springs(identical). The manufacturer just post the drop based on what you have (sport or non sport susp) :
Ex: your car drops 1.1", 0.9" front , rear if it had sport before
your car drops 2.0 1.4" front, rear if it didnt have sport before, but because sport suspension is 0.9, 0.5 lower front, rear , already from the factory, its translated to identical drop. Get the idea.




To OP, double check the rear springs, you might have put the spring pad incorrectly and thats why it sits higher.
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That is your issue, the part numbers are completely different so their are different "race springs" for sport and non sport. What shocks were you running? I'll assume you didn't buy the kit brand new, but how do the racelands stack up against your old H&Rs?
The part numbers are only different, so they can recognize them when they put a package for you (aka: cup kit) because they have slightly different spring rates, the drop will be identical.
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The part numbers are only different, so they can recognize them when they put a package for you (aka: cup kit) because they have slightly different spring rates, the drop will be identical.
Really? I don't want to call you wrong because you seem like you know what you're talking about, but the race springs for a non-sport pkg. car are the same part number as the sports springs for the sport pkg. car. Wouldn't that technically mean that there is another spring rate for the race springs on a sport package car, as non sport pkg. race = sport pkg. sport springs?
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:04 AM   #15
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guys, hold on for a minute

you're all talking about the rake, I like the rake

what I ask for is my overall drop... Car sits just too high...

I can put my whole hand in the gap between the wheels and fenders

I believe most of you had/have sport suspension, unfortunately I've got this soft version
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Really? I don't want to call you wrong because you seem like you know what you're talking about, but the race springs for a non-sport pkg. car are the same part number as the sports springs for the sport pkg. car. Wouldn't that technically mean that there is another spring rate for the race springs on a sport package car, as non sport pkg. race = sport pkg. sport springs?
You are actually right about the part numbers of those 2. I've read somewhere about those spring rates but can't remember where.
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Old 03-26-2010, 05:12 PM   #17
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Ok, here ya have some pics (still on winter wheels). Sorry but I had no time to make a real photo shoot.






As you can see the surface isn't totally flat...but I have a strange feeling that it has really gone a little lower after another ride...

So, is it low enough for H&R Race?

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Looks so, I wouldn't worry any more.
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Old 03-26-2010, 05:30 PM   #19
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Ok I gotta ask...

When you say rake, you mean one end (the back?) is lower than the other?
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I believe rake is when the front is lower than the back
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