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Old 04-30-2012, 08:30 PM   #21
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What about a combination of both??

Use the jack just rise the engine and then the engine support to hold it and remove the jack. This way the stress over the oil pan is there just for a few minutes and you have extra space under the car once you remove the jack.

This is just an idea... lets see what others say

Maybe replacing the mounts is too fast and all this work is unnecessary and maybe you will need to be able to move the engine up and down to place the new mounts in place.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:10 PM   #22
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The engine support brace wont help you. When you install new engine mounts you need to actually raise the engine a bit to get them out. The engine support brace only does what it does , support, it doent raise.

Put a block of wood under the oilpan and raise the engine with a jack until you get them out. Nothing is gonna happen , dont worry , you're not gonna mess up any wires and your oil pan wont crack or break . Done it many times
oh yea! My engine soon to see new ENGINE MOUNTS!

here i come! Pics will be available after i receive new parts. ^_^

i will follow your steps, thank you sir^

I really just dont want nothing serious to happen to my Oil pan, i really dont wanna bend it and have to get new one PITA! I REPEAT PITA!


Is there a location im suppose to raise the engine with jack?

can someone make pics with location to setup the jack and wood?

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:32 PM   #23
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What about a combination of both??

Use the jack just rise the engine and then the engine support to hold it and remove the jack. This way the stress over the oil pan is there just for a few minutes and you have extra space under the car once you remove the jack.

This is just an idea... lets see what others say

Maybe replacing the mounts is too fast and all this work is unnecessary and maybe you will need to be able to move the engine up and down to place the new mounts in place.
Well you could but you would need to use a crane as the engine support bar can only support the engine at its normal position. Meaning you can support it as it is and then remove anything you want and it wont go anywhere, but if you raise it then you wouldnt be able to use that brace. Hard to explain ...
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oh yea! My engine soon to see new ENGINE MOUNTS!

here i come! Pics will be available after i receive new parts. ^_^

i will follow your steps, thank you sir^

I really just dont want nothing serious to happen to my Oil pan, i really dont wanna bend it and have to get new one PITA! I REPEAT PITA!


Is there a location im suppose to raise the engine with jack?

can someone make pics with location to setup the jack and wood?
You can put the block of wood anywhere you want, not on the oil sensor of course. Try to put it where the oil plug is.

Here is a tip, when you buy new motor mounts buy the ones made for M3 or for xi model (m3 and Xi cars have IDENTICAL motor mounts, same part number) why? because they're the stiffest and therefore the best oem piece.

You will need at least 2 feet of extensions and you absolutely must use a ratchet joint extension .

Search , there are a tonne of DIYs on google both both M and non-m .

Another tip: remove your AUX fan before proceeding, because when you lift/tilt the motor , you'll need extra space
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:50 PM   #24
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The engine support brace wont help you. When you install new engine mounts you need to actually raise the engine a bit to get them out. The engine support brace only does what it does , support, it doent raise.

Put a block of wood under the oilpan and raise the engine with a jack until you get them out. Nothing is gonna happen , dont worry , you're not gonna mess up any wires and your oil pan wont crack or break . Done it many times
I used the engine support bar to lift the engine enough to take off the driver side motor mounts. The passenger side needed a little help from below. But you can definitely use the engine support bar to raise the engine above its normal height. Just keep turning the giant wing bolt!
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:24 PM   #25
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I used the engine support bar to lift the engine enough to take off the driver side motor mounts. The passenger side needed a little help from below. But you can definitely use the engine support bar to raise the engine above its normal height. Just keep turning the giant wing bolt!
X2, you can raise the engine with the engine support bar. Did you see the link I provided Blocked Out?

Also providing link to DIY that seems to work the best with the least hassles.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...236&highlight=
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:40 PM   #26
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wow, way too much thought going into this.

this is taking longer to discuss than to just do - the jack under the engine is the most efficient and since you are only doing one side at a time there isnt anyway for the engine to fall more than a few inches
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:13 AM   #27
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Get the Harbor Freight support bar for $48 with the 20% off coupon. There is one is this months Car and Driver, if you are not on Harbor Freights mailing list. I went to get mine today, but they were out of them at the store I went to. They have 5 in stock on the other side of town, so I will be going there tomorrow.
You will probably spend more than $50 in lumber for your wood frame deal. The support bar is a better method than jacking up the engine by the oil pan, IMO. I know you like to save some money, but this is about safety and what is best for your car. You will be kicking yourself if something happens to your oil pan if you jack it up, and you don't want to get squashed under a home made engine lift, that is a bad way to go.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:16 AM   #28
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The engine support brace wont help you. When you install new engine mounts you need to actually raise the engine a bit to get them out. The engine support brace only does what it does , support, it doent raise.

Put a block of wood under the oilpan and raise the engine with a jack until you get them out. Nothing is gonna happen , dont worry , you're not gonna mess up any wires and your oil pan wont crack or break . Done it many times
So, those other members who reported doing this are all wrong?
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:58 PM   #29
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I used the engine support bar to lift the engine enough to take off the driver side motor mounts. The passenger side needed a little help from below. But you can definitely use the engine support bar to raise the engine above its normal height. Just keep turning the giant wing bolt!
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X2, you can raise the engine with the engine support bar. Did you see the link I provided Blocked Out?

Also providing link to DIY that seems to work the best with the least hassles.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...236&highlight=
No I didnt see the link. It blows my mind that people are buying an engine support bar for this job. I dont get it, why? The bar makes the job SO much more difficult as when you lower the engine onto the new motor mounts you have to be under the car guiding the brackets in, now you guys made it a 2 person job with your bar.

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So, those other members who reported doing this are all wrong?
No , they are correct. I was wrong.


Its getting out of control guys , 330i ZHP said it BEST.

If you guys are so worried about such simple job as this, have a priest bless you along with your car before you start
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:08 PM   #30
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no i didnt see the link. It blows my mind that people are buying an engine support bar for this job. I dont get it, why? the bar makes the job so much more difficult as when you lower the engine onto the new motor mounts you have to be under the car guiding the brackets in, now you guys made it a 2 person job with your bar.

Sad story. Lol



no , they are correct. I was wrong.


Its getting out of control guys , 330i zhp said it best.

If you guys are so worried about such simple job as this, have a priest bless you along with your car before you start

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Old 05-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #31
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No I didnt see the link. It blows my mind that people are buying an engine support bar for this job. I dont get it, why? The bar makes the job SO much more difficult as when you lower the engine onto the new motor mounts you have to be under the car guiding the brackets in, now you guys made it a 2 person job with your bar.
Actually it was VERY easy to get the motor back on the new mounts. All it takes is the "right" technique. http://e46fanatics.com/forum/showthr...236&highlight=

I did it myself in a cramped dark garage with about 2 ft clearance on each side of the car. I managed to lower the engine onto the new mounts in less than 1 min per side.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:16 PM   #32
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i used the jack it up from underneath method. i have to say lowering the subframe would be the better method as you have to jack the car up kinda high and it does put stress on the heater hoses. enough that it could possibly promote a leak there.

there are plenty of diy's on this.
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the place for a brace is right next to the power steering reservoir and the oil filter tank..... see the metal loop thats for holding the motor up or lifting it slightly, also could jump ur car from there (I know that from experience, dont fall asleep in a parking lot with thew AC blasting and stereo blasting..lol)
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