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Old 04-20-2010, 11:47 PM   #21
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Let them try it if they want....they are putting up the money. Never really seen people stare at the roof of a car. With the CF wrap material getting so popular....let them do what they want to do. I have not seen it in person so I can't comment on it. Tons of people here have black cars with black rims....and that is played out and could be called rice also...... But, if they like it....more power to them. Lots of people have loud exhaust pipes on a BMW E46 that makes them happy....but I would not put one on my around 200HP car....but if it makes them happy....let them do it.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:49 PM   #22
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Let them do what they want to do....and I am well aware of the difference from real CF and wraps.......

If people want to spend big bucks, they can get a CSL roof or VSTR roof....but for the install of a real CF roof and the depreciation of the E46, not the smartest idea. People do have money out there though and do get those.

I would not say that some of the guys who do a vinyl wrap are cheap. They work with what they can afford...and if it makes them happy over the wood trim....more power to them. Some of the stuff if put on properly looks pretty good. I have seen lots of Fanatics that have done good work with imitation CF wraps and materials.

EDIT: And not everyone here has $$$ to buy a CF hood, CSL trunk, and CF interior. Can you tell the difference...yes, but if tastefully done....it looks good. Actually, not everyone here likes CF. Some hate black rims...time attack stripes.....loud exhausts......CSL rims.......Dinan......dropped springs.......you see where I am going.

My car is paid off though and I love the hell out of it. I did it my way. Did not need to ask permission to see what hood, bumper, wheels, interior was supported here as some do.
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:55 PM   #23
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Before I installed my gloss black vinyl, I laid on a sheet of CF vinyl that a friend had just to see what it would look like.

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Old 04-21-2010, 01:11 AM   #24
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alot of people done this before, i think it looks good, if you ike it go for ir, i kinda look it too to be honest lol
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:06 PM   #26
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lots of parts on my car are real carbon fiber.... looks great in the beginning....but turns yellowish after a little while....
dont know if its because of the heat here in thailand.....but all of my frnd's ride carbon fiber parts turned yellow....
i now wraped most of those parts with carbon fiber look vinyl from 3M....and it looks great to me....





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lots of parts on my car are real carbon fiber.... looks great in the beginning....but turns yellowish after a little while....
dont know if its because of the heat here in thailand.....but all of my frnd's ride carbon fiber parts turned yellow....
i now wraped most of those parts with carbon fiber look vinyl from 3M....and it looks great to me....
Your's and your friends' yellowing problem is a result of buying cheap CF. The yellowing is caused by UV damage and plagues inferior CF products, it has nothing to do with the heat. Cheap CF parts are made with a polyester resin, which is not UV resistant. If you want CF that doesn't yellow, buy a quality product made with epoxy resin. In addition, CF products made with polyester resin are heavier than their counterparts made with epoxy resin. Polyester resin isn't as strong as epoxy resin and more has to be used during the molding process.
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Your's and your friends' yellowing problem is a result of buying cheap CF. The yellowing is caused by UV damage and plagues inferior CF products, it has nothing to do with the heat. Cheap CF parts are made with a polyester resin, which is not UV resistant. If you want CF that doesn't yellow, buy a quality product made with epoxy resin. In addition, CF products made with polyester resin are heavier than their counterparts made with epoxy resin. Polyester resin isn't as strong as epoxy resin and more has to be used during the molding process.
well..... lots of those hoods and roof that turned yellowish were also volsteiner hoods......what do you have to say about that?
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well..... lots of those hoods and roof that turned yellowish were also volsteiner hoods......what do you have to say about that?
Well...it means vorsteiner used a polyester resin when making the hoods and roofs. Didn't you read what he wrote
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #30
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Depends, wich one is lighter and gets you better power to weight ratio
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Well...it means vorsteiner used a polyester resin when making the hoods and roofs. Didn't you read what he wrote
well....what i thought all along was that vorsteiner produces pretty decent carbon fiber product lines..... and here in thailand its one of the most expensive gtr hood one can get.......well..... maybe i got it all wrong.....

thank you for pointing it out to me........ so which hood do you recommend then ?!?!?
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lots of parts on my car are real carbon fiber.... looks great in the beginning....but turns yellowish after a little while....
dont know if its because of the heat here in thailand.....but all of my frnd's ride carbon fiber parts turned yellow....
i now wraped most of those parts with carbon fiber look vinyl from 3M....and it looks great to me....





Picture of that roof looks pretty dang good. Wonder how long it holds up with the weather though and if there is any problems removing it.
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Picture of that roof looks pretty dang good. Wonder how long it holds up with the weather though and if there is any problems removing it.
oh it'll hold up just fine....my frnd had matte black roof for a year then he changed it into carbon fiber vinyl as well.... and the removing process wasnt that hard.... he parked the car in the sun for 2 hrs then peel it out bit by bit....and the paint work under it was still fine....
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Anyone who has a sunroof, managed to get this done successfully?
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Anyone who has a sunroof, managed to get this done successfully?
yes.... here's a pic of my frnd's matte white with carbon roof e46

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Interesting because I have a VIS c/f hood that is starting to haze because of the clear coat/gel thats failing. Instead of spending the 400-500 to recoat or paint ( as most shops are quoting me ) would c/f wrapping the hood be a good alternative choice? This 3m c/f stuff, where can I find?
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Interesting because I have a VIS c/f hood that is starting to haze because of the clear coat/gel thats failing. Instead of spending the 400-500 to recoat or paint ( as most shops are quoting me ) would c/f wrapping the hood be a good alternative choice? This 3m c/f stuff, where can I find?
If you google it, you'll find tons of them. And yes, repainting would be waste of money..go for wrap
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Old 04-23-2010, 02:38 PM   #39
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hey did you guys wrap the roof DIY? do you have to remove the roof panel to wrap it? or just do it directly on the car?

man you need to make a write-up here for us

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get it from DonN.. he seems to have it at the best price. i have shopped around.
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