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Old 05-25-2010, 04:18 PM   #101
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hey man you think fraud is a small crime? and nothing is gonna happen to you think again so how you think your smarter than all the other people that got caught smarter than shop owners who where using these and got caught? they don't care if you do it once or 100 times you will get caught and kris is so smart he even post up his VIN number
Where is my VIN number? If you pay close attention I stated that the VIN was made up.
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:13 PM   #104
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at least i back up whatever i said with links i told you this is fraud i showed you someone getting prosecuted for this over 40 shops and so how you know something they don't, i told you it wouldnt work and i told you why because of the missing pids you even agree and said it was gonna be solve in the future the fact is you are not the first to do this theres been people doing this for years and they got in trouble it takes a long time for you to know if they got you or not you may get a letter 2 years from now you may not but the fact is this doesnt work 100 percent because of the missing pids all they have to do is check your results and they got you is it likely? no but is not wroth the risk. whoever wants to do this could do it i just want to make then aware of the risk and consequences why does this bother you ? the problem with this is that your using a device to cheat the state is not a regular offense like clean scanning which means using another vehicle when you used a device it becomes something else you may think is nothing big but it is this is what im trying to explain to you but you just dont listen

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ISO 14230 KWP2000 (Keyword Protocol 2000) this is the protocol used for european vehicles including bmws this is also different the ones you get from the sim is for asian cars the iso 9141
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i am considering getting this setup. do i get ISO only, CAN only or iso/can combined
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depends what your going to use for if only your car just get the ISO
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i am considering getting this setup. do i get ISO only, CAN only or iso/can combined
You get both CAN/ISO and you select what version of each you want via the software that you download from the immense website.

I'll answer your questions you sent to me in my inbox shortly. Good thing you didn't ask them here, cnotes would have bombarded you with trash.
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You get both CAN/ISO and you select what version of each you want via the software that you download from the immense website.

I'll answer your questions you sent to me in my inbox shortly. Good thing you didn't ask them here, cnotes would have bombarded you with trash.

I saw in the screen shot of the program that you can choose the protocols also i saw this on the website
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This software driven OBD II Simulator is capable of supporting 10 of the most common PIDs including RPM and Vehicle Speed, as well as Readiness Monitors, VIN, CALID, and CVN.
This unit supports both ISO 9141-2 and all 4 variants of the OBD II CAN protocol."


, also on the pin out of the device i see that it has the rigth pin out to connect through a kwp2000 protocol



now compare this is to the kwp2000



i believe the device will be able to connect to your car double k lines and will also be able to read the l line. The emission machine will be able to connect through the protocol no problem, i would advice to use a scanner ( a modis / launch x341) to see what monitors are avaliable, also do not forget the vin.

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it will also be a good idea to use a program like mitchell to find the sensor values at idle so that the inspection machine wont see anything out of the ordinary

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I have ordered PCMScan so I can get the PID results and other data logging for future stuff. I am trying to buy a ISO cable that supports KWP. need to get this car through emissions (damn TCU)
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I saw in the screen shot of the program that you can choose the protocols also i saw this on the website
"Quick Overview
This software driven OBD II Simulator is capable of supporting 10 of the most common PIDs including RPM and Vehicle Speed, as well as Readiness Monitors, VIN, CALID, and CVN.
This unit supports both ISO 9141-2 and all 4 variants of the OBD II CAN protocol."


, also on the pin out of the device i see that it has the rigth pin out to connect through a kwp2000 protocol



now compare this is to the kwp2000



i believe the device will be able to connect to your car double k lines and will also be able to read the l line. The emission machine will be able to connect through the protocol no problem, i would advice to use a scanner ( a modis / launch x341) to see what monitors are avaliable, also do not forget the vin.
what does anyone know about the K lines? Does the TCU have its own K line? or does the ECU/DME keep all the trans data?
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I have ordered PCMScan so I can get the PID results and other data logging for future stuff. I am trying to buy a ISO cable that supports KWP. need to get this car through emissions (damn TCU)
u mean the connector by it self? if thats what you need have a trip to your nearest junk yard and take some clippers with you. you can re pin the connector if necessary
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what does anyone know about the K lines? Does the TCU have its own K line? or does the ECU/DME keep all the trans data?
well depends this is from a z3

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no, not the oem connector.

I cable that I hook up to my laptop to scan and clear data. log data from the sensors, etc I am looking for a less expensive but comprehensive cable like this:

http://www.drewtech.com/products/Mon...ngooseiso.html
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well depends this is from a z3

so looking at that diagram - the tcu connect to the obd ii port THROUGH??? the DME
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no, not the oem connector.

I cable that I hook up to my laptop to scan and clear data. log data from the sensors, etc I am looking for a less expensive but comprehensive cable like this:

http://www.drewtech.com/products/Mon...ngooseiso.html
have you considered this? http://www.bavariantechnic.com/default.aspx

i mean by the time you pay for the other software and you get the interface you will be spending the same amount, another option will be to ebay inpa cables. that could get you going

sample link ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_6211wt_1167 ) i hope this is not against forum rules
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so looking at that diagram - the tcu connect to the obd ii port THROUGH??? the DME
yup, dme and tcm share a k line. But think that this is for this specific vehicle. Ive read that these cars were some what different to others. i do not have another diagram handy for comparison. well maybe let me search in identifix
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I saw in the screen shot of the program that you can choose the protocols also i saw this on the website
"Quick Overview
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This unit supports both ISO 9141-2 and all 4 variants of the OBD II CAN protocol."


, also on the pin out of the device i see that it has the rigth pin out to connect through a kwp2000 protocol



now compare this is to the kwp2000



i believe the device will be able to connect to your car double k lines and will also be able to read the l line. The emission machine will be able to connect through the protocol no problem, i would advice to use a scanner ( a modis / launch x341) to see what monitors are avaliable, also do not forget the vin.
xpicer you seem to have some knowledge on this subject, you know the iso he currently supports is for asian cars im afraid the computer will detect this could this cause some problems?
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sorry to ask this again...with the dme and tcu sharing the k line, does that mean if the tcu is reporting codes the dme saves the codes or do the scan tools (and emissions station) get the codes from the tcu

there is a thought that if i cut the k line on the tcu (going to the dme) or to the obd ii port then the tcu codes will not report??? anyone agree with this or know differently?
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