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Old 05-07-2010, 10:39 AM   #1
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FK Coilovers install issues.....

So I took advantage of the ECS sale and got me a sweet set of coilovers.
The shop I trust is trying to install them as we speak......
I have a 2000 323ci with the 17" stock wheels.

Now they tell me I need spacers.....I need strut mounts or whatever , adjustable this and that.....

So anyway, how come I need all that, when I see DIY's here or several people in the Raceland thread that just put them on with no issues other than endlinks which were included in the kit of the FK ones.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:53 AM   #2
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Spacers, probably because your wheels aren't clearing the coilovers.

Strut Mounts, because you should have replaced them with the coilovers anyway, they are a "wear" item on bmw's.

And Adjustable "this and that"; sounds like your'e frustrated and need to elaborate more.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:59 AM   #3
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Spacers, probably because your wheels aren't clearing the coilovers.

Strut Mounts, because you should have replaced them with the coilovers anyway, they are a "wear" item on bmw's.

And Adjustable "this and that"; sounds like your'e frustrated and need to elaborate more.
yeap to go as low as I wanted i added 5mm spacers
no big deal i had 42mm offset on me wheels, by the way you could go without spacers just not as low, for it to go lower the large black nut needs to come down
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:59 AM   #4
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Just buy a pair of 5mm spacers and extended lug nuts and you're golden.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:02 PM   #5
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yep get some spacers and how low u trying to go man. also replace the strut mounts if they are worn and rear shock mounts too.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:11 PM   #6
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I just bought the OEM non adjustable strut mount, silver thing on top, and keept the original in one piece easy in and out
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:09 PM   #7
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If you want to get by without spacers then you can ask the shop to remove the tender springs as they're totally unnecessary. With them out, you possibly won't need spacers.

With that said, 5 or 8mm spacers do the trick for most people. I prefer 8mm spacers with TMS hub extenders.
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:22 PM   #8
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yeap to go as low as I wanted i added 5mm spacers
no big deal i had 42mm offset on me wheels, by the way you could go without spacers just not as low, for it to go lower the large black nut needs to come down
Thank you guys so much!!!!
I was just at the shop and that's exactly what it looks like!
So I'm getting 5mm spacers right now!

Yeah I also should get new strut mounts, is there any place where I can get these online for a good deal?
They also said, they might need adjustable strut mounts, any info on that ?

I didn't plan on spending that much though, but I have to.....my next plan was 19" wheels, but I guess that has to wait.

Oh, also the guy who sells the spacers, tried to talk me out of it, because he said I will have vibration in my steering wheel when using spacers......
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Yeah I also should get new strut mounts, is there any place where I can get these online for a good deal?
They also said, they might need adjustable strut mounts, any info on that ?

BavAuto, or ECS has decent prices about 50$ for fronts maybe 40$ for the rear. But when they say adjustable mounts, they are basically saying Adjustable Camber Kit... those can get rather expensive. 300-500$
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BavAuto, or ECS has decent prices about 50$ for fronts maybe 40$ for the rear. But when they say adjustable mounts, they are basically saying Adjustable Camber Kit... those can get rather expensive. 300-500$
Thank you! I checked on the adjustable ones.....yes $300 and up...

Do I really need adjustable ones? I only want to go a solid 2" in the Front and 1.75" in the rear btw....

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And can the new strut mounts be easily installed after-wards?
I would like to get my car back asap and run the old strut mounts until the new ones arrive.

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These seem like a sweet deal:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-B...Q5fAccessories

Should I do the rear ones too?

Thanks if anyone could help me before Monday.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:02 PM   #11
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BUMP....can I haz help, pleazzzzz....
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Oh come on guys, I know here are hundreds of guys with coilovers....do you need adjustable strut mounts or not!?

Can I use these above on ebay?

Do I need new rear strut mounts too?
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Sorry buddy, busy last couple days.

I wouldn't buy off ebay for something so inexpensive. Its good to know the make of the product before purchasing. And they aren't much more expensive from ECS.
The rears you could change after the coil's have been installed I believe. But the fronts need to be installed at the same time. And I really cant tell you that you will be ok without camber plates or not, thats up to you. Ride quality and tire wear might become an issue, but that is only related to how much neg. camber the car displays after its all installed.

And You should definitely replace the rears at the same time. If the fronts are worn then the rears already are, or soon will be ready to be replaced.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:40 AM   #14
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Sorry buddy, busy last couple days.

I wouldn't buy off ebay for something so inexpensive. Its good to know the make of the product before purchasing. And they aren't much more expensive from ECS.
The rears you could change after the coil's have been installed I believe. But the fronts need to be installed at the same time. And I really cant tell you that you will be ok without camber plates or not, thats up to you. Ride quality and tire wear might become an issue, but that is only related to how much neg. camber the car displays after its all installed.

And You should definitely replace the rears at the same time. If the fronts are worn then the rears already are, or soon will be ready to be replaced.
Sure, thanks buddy, I appreciate it!
Well these on ebay are OEM, so I thought what the hell.
OK, I will call my shop and tell them that, maybe it's best to just go with the adjustable ones and get the job done right!
I hate low quality sh1t or a job half done.
That's why I went with this Coilover kit in the first place instead of the Racelands.

Things I learned.....when using coilovers, you need spacers in the front, new strut mounts front and back, possibly even adjustable ones, which run $300.
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No matter what you do,do not buy Strut mount on ebay even if they claim them to be oem but they're Hamburg technik junks.
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No matter what you do,do not buy Strut mount on ebay even if they claim them to be oem but they're Hamburg technik junks.
I won't!
These are what I need:
http://www.spcalignment.com/PROD_DIR...d2=72080&cmd3=

Maybe these too:
http://www.spcalignment.com/PROD_DIR...d2=72110&cmd3=
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Yeah those would solve any excessive negative camber issues. How much does SPC sell them for?
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Well they are more than $350 on most online sites, but I think my shop will get them straight from Specialty Products for slightly more then $300, I think they said, 32...something.
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Well they are more than $350 on most online sites, but I think my shop will get them straight from Specialty Products for slightly more then $300, I think they said, 32...something.
If you have the means... then thats the best way to go. Good luck, and dont forget to post pics when its all said and done sir.
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