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Old Yesterday, 09:34 AM   #1
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Starter Motor Hesitation

Has anyone else experienced a brief (fraction of a second) delay when turning their ignition key?

I'm not freaking about it........yet, but I've seen these kinds of "delays" go south on other vehicles

It's almost as though the starter stopped on a bad segment of its commutator the last time it was used.....and the next time, it has to "think twice" before realizing it's time to get with the program.

The only reason I ask this NOW, is because the delay I have is random/intermittent....sometimes there, sometimes not......but YESTERDAY, it was about 3 times as long as usual. Still no more than a second in length, but, long enough that my mind immediately raced to "oh, oh....trouble!"

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Old Yesterday, 09:47 AM   #2
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When my starter died it gave no warning, I'd check all your connections. On older starters you could turn the main power stud to make a new contact point and give it a longer life. IDK if it works on ours.
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Has anyone else experienced a brief (fraction of a second) delay when turning their ignition key?

I'm not freaking about it........yet, but I've seen these kinds of "delays" go south on other vehicles

It's almost as though the starter stopped on a bad segment of its commutator the last time it was used.....and the next time, it has to "think twice" before realizing it's time to get with the program.

The only reason I ask this NOW, is because the delay I have is random/intermittent....sometimes there, sometimes not......but YESTERDAY, it was about 3 times as long as usual. Still no more than a second in length, but, long enough that my mind immediately raced to "oh, oh....trouble!"

Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks,
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Definitely sounds like the starter, more so given the year.
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Old Yesterday, 10:16 AM   #4
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You may have a weak battery.
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Old Yesterday, 11:04 AM   #5
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It's usually the plunger ring that goes bad (makes contact to close circuit),,, over years of use, this ring pits and decays, and eventually cannot close the circuit... symptoms are random delayed or no start because of the bad contact..... I rebuilt a starter on a Toyota last year replacing the plunger, works as new.

Here's what a bad plunger ring looks like.... it is worn and pitted on the edge of the ring (at the bottom), and fails to make good contact.
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I am not suggesting it's not a bad starter, but pulling a starter is not easy. Check the basics (battery) first.
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It's gonna be the starter....
...does it do it more often hot?

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It's gonna be the starter....
...does it do it more often hot?

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Old Today, 09:58 AM   #9
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It's gonna be the starter....
...does it do it more often hot?

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I hadn't really noticed......but, now that you mention it, I think it's most often later in the day.......well after the "first" start. So, it's at LEAST warm, if not hot when it usually does it.

Curious why you ask. ?
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may as well replace it now and get it over with. if you are pulling the intake manifold to do it, now is a good time to replace all rubber/vacuum.
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may as well replace it now and get it over with. if you are pulling the intake manifold to do it, now is a good time to replace all rubber/vacuum.
I appreciate the heads up.

Can you give me any kind of a shopping list (to expand on "all rubber/vacuum")?

Oh, and can I get any kind of consensus on the starter? Am I......
1. replacing it with OEM new
2. replacing it with aftermarket new
3. replacing it with some version of rebuilt
.......or
a) repairing it (the "plunger ring" that CalVol mentioned
b) rebuilding my own and reinstalling it (approx down time?)(Do these things even HAVE commutators and brushes that could be "renovated"....like the old days?)
c) ???

Thanks for any and all input.
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What is the battery voltage with the ignition off?
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What is the battery voltage with the ignition off?
Wifey's got the car at work today....I'll have to check it and get back.
Are you talking....with cables connected? (I always assume...although have not recently checked...that readings would be MARGINALLY different depending on being hooked up or not.)
I'll check when she gets back and post it. (btw, battery WAS replaced within the past 4 or 5 years)

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