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Old 10-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #13341
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I read somewhere that when the light comes on 1mm of pad is what's left dont know the % and depending on traffic conditions bumper to bumper stopping and going it can vary on miles
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #13342
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I read somewhere that when the light comes on 1mm of pad is what's left dont know the % and depending on traffic conditions bumper to bumper stopping and going it can vary on miles
BMW estimates 200 miles once the light comes on, but of course it depends on how you're driving.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:35 AM   #13343
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:12 AM   #13344
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:18 AM   #13345
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first off aside from the fact that you installed the wrong parts on your car, you installed used parts on your car. particularly stock M3 shocks/struts. is this correct?
Omfg yes used parts like my used exhaust and used airbox and used tires and all the other great used parts I've installed and enjoyed thoroughly with no ill affects whatsoever.

So obviously I misspoke and there is no e46 m3 sedan honestly I'd never researched and was unawares given later models. So yes I've got 20k mile m3 suspension(4 springs and shocks/struts with all related hw and new/used turner sways/links) in my car vs 80k factory suspension and boy does it seem to work great and it swapped right on like a glove.

I love that this outrages you and will thus enjoy it all that much further you uptight dickwad. People like you with limited vision make living a life of open opportunities that much better, go hide somewhere safe and ill just go around you.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:22 AM   #13346
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Omfg yes used parts like my used exhaust and used airbox and used tires and all the other great used parts I've installed and enjoyed thoroughly with no ill affects whatsoever.

So obviously I misspoke and there is no e46 m3 sedan honestly I'd never researched and was unawares given later models. So yes I've got 20k mile m3 suspension(4 springs and shocks/struts with all related hw and new/used turner sways/links) in my car vs 80k factory suspension and boy does it seem to work great and it swapped right on like a glove.

I love that this outrages you and will thus enjoy it all that much further you uptight dickwad. People like you with limited vision make living a life of open opportunities that much better, go hide somewhere safe and ill just go around you.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:04 AM   #13347
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Omfg yes used parts like my used exhaust and used airbox and used tires and all the other great used parts I've installed and enjoyed thoroughly with no ill affects whatsoever.

So obviously I misspoke and there is no e46 m3 sedan honestly I'd never researched and was unawares given later models. So yes I've got 20k mile m3 suspension(4 springs and shocks/struts with all related hw and new/used turner sways/links) in my car vs 80k factory suspension and boy does it seem to work great and it swapped right on like a glove.

I love that this outrages you and will thus enjoy it all that much further you uptight dickwad. People like you with limited vision make living a life of open opportunities that much better, go hide somewhere safe and ill just go around you.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:18 AM   #13348
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Do the hybrids use friction surfaces or just electrical field to stop? I wont even start in that,im for sure wrong one way or another. Electrobraking has been used since 20th century, i just thought bit diff about it.Anywayz the abs was designed for people who cant drive and hold brakes to floor and turn steering wheel. Cant even be a debate about it, they dont stop you as fast as unassisted braking. The theory is there but ive never driven 1 vehicle that has a functioning system on ice. They all suck. Ive had to feather on the handbrake to stop couple of times. It was supposed to give you steering if you lock em all up. Many times the abs will delay way to long between braking again or it applies to much force immediately and results in kicking out to quick its ok im done. Good posts from you though
They use a mix of both. For light braking they can use just the electric motor, but for real braking they use conventional brakes.

ABS was designed to prevent locking the brakes under a panic stop. For 99% of people they are going to stop faster than regular brakes that will lock up. I don't know what cars you've driven, but every one I have tested ABS on has worked flawlessly. My Jeep's ABS worked perfectly on mud and snow.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:24 AM   #13349
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Omfg yes used parts like my used exhaust and used airbox and used tires and all the other great used parts I've installed and enjoyed thoroughly with no ill affects whatsoever.

So obviously I misspoke and there is no e46 m3 sedan honestly I'd never researched and was unawares given later models. So yes I've got 20k mile m3 suspension(4 springs and shocks/struts with all related hw and new/used turner sways/links) in my car vs 80k factory suspension and boy does it seem to work great and it swapped right on like a glove.

I love that this outrages you and will thus enjoy it all that much further you uptight dickwad. People like you with limited vision make living a life of open opportunities that much better, go hide somewhere safe and ill just go around you.
lol have you read the fit ///m parts on non-m thread? its common knowledge that the m3 suspension parts arent meant for non-ms. nothing is gained from it anyway.

those struts/shocks you installed are OE (great when new) but seriously degraded (if not completely dead) when used. Do you really think the seller was truthful when he said it has 20k miles on it? oldest trick in the book when selling used suspension components
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:13 AM   #13350
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They use a mix of both. For light braking they can use just the electric motor, but for real braking they use conventional brakes.

ABS was designed to prevent locking the brakes under a panic stop. For 99% of people they are going to stop faster than regular brakes that will lock up. I don't know what cars you've driven, but every one I have tested ABS on has worked flawlessly. My Jeep's ABS worked perfectly on mud and snow.
Ok. I worked at chrysler dodge for bout a year. Maybe we have different ice in canada.lol. I do find that 4x4 vehicles have more effective brakes cause there is equal drag from drivetrain on all wheels instead of locking front up as soon as brakes are touched( with 4x4 activated). I have had alot of hemis that i felt like sticking a foot on the ground to stop and i owed a 323ci that one time made abs noise for about 300 yards and went off end of road before i got it stopped. Good thing it was ramped. I was only going about 25 mph when started braking. Sure driver error too but i always test every vehicle skid control in parking lots to know how they will react. Ive found sometimes you can no doubt stop faster using handbrake with abs for fronts. Also the vehicles without abs working sure seem alot better for me anyway. You havent noticed the change in pulse rate when you step on brake harder? Abs works on same principle as traction control and ide say i can pickup speed faster without it, so should be same for stopping( on ice) on dry pavement i think the abs system is fast enough to keep up but ice is noticeable to me how much lag there is in activation( why it kicks out so quick, cause it gives to much pressure when it kicks in)

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Old 10-27-2012, 12:07 PM   #13351
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Ok. I worked at chrysler dodge for bout a year. Maybe we have different ice in canada.lol. I do find that 4x4 vehicles have more effective brakes cause there is equal drag from drivetrain on all wheels instead of locking front up as soon as brakes are touched( with 4x4 activated). I have had alot of hemis that i felt like sticking a foot on the ground to stop and i owed a 323ci that one time made abs noise for about 300 yards and went off end of road before i got it stopped. Good thing it was ramped. I was only going about 25 mph when started braking. Sure driver error too but i always test every vehicle skid control in parking lots to know how they will react. Ive found sometimes you can no doubt stop faster using handbrake with abs for fronts. Also the vehicles without abs working sure seem alot better for me anyway. You havent noticed the change in pulse rate when you step on brake harder? Abs works on same principle as traction control and ide say i can pickup speed faster without it, so should be same for stopping( on ice) on dry pavement i think the abs system is fast enough to keep up but ice is noticeable to me how much lag there is in activation( why it kicks out so quick, cause it gives to much pressure when it kicks in)
I said my Jeep worked fine on snow not ice. Nothing works on ice, ABS or not. You slid off the road b/c of the ice not your ABS. ABS is similar to TCS in that it controls wheel slip, but it does it in a different manner. ABS controls brake force and TCS controls engine torque.

Also, thats a parking brake, not a handbrake.
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I said my Jeep worked fine on snow not ice. Nothing works on ice, ABS or not. You slid off the road b/c of the ice not your ABS. ABS is similar to TCS in that it controls wheel slip, but it does it in a different manner. ABS controls brake force and TCS controls engine torque.

Also, thats a parking brake, not a handbrake.
Ok. So abs is made for when you have grip.ahhh i see now.i didnt mean ice wasnt the cause of brakes not working properly, just that abs was big contributer to overshooting corner. Also meant similar in that they both retard the systems.just cause theory is there doesnt mean system automatically works. Look at trucks with 1 sensor on diff for both back tires and 1 for the front wheels. How is that good? And the parking brake also has gone through names such as the e brake( emergency brake) along with handbrake because its used with your hand i guess they should change footpedal name to normal braking applicator
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I don't even know what you're trying to say. ABS reacts hundred of times faster than any human can.
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Old 10-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #13354
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lol have you read the fit ///m parts on non-m thread? its common knowledge that the m3 suspension parts arent meant for non-ms. nothing is gained from it anyway.

those struts/shocks you installed are OE (great when new) but seriously degraded (if not completely dead) when used. Do you really think the seller was truthful when he said it has 20k miles on it? oldest trick in the book when selling used suspension components
I know the rebound was significantly stiffer than that of the 85k+ oem suspension in mine and that along with new sways it resulted in a much better ride... what's the downside? Parts were noticeably not that used, especially compared to mine.

For a few hundred bucks I feel like I got a much firmer suspension that will last me until I can afford Bilsteins. Now you tell me how it's going to blow up and destroy my car...

And just because you can say the shop lied doesn't mean it did, I mean, I paid less than $200 for all the pieces, what do they really gain from that if they are f'g me? Lunch money? There are 50k, 100k race cars in their shop as we speak, wouldn't it be easier to pad some work for one of those customers? You must be a Republican.

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