E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Tuning & Tech > Forced Induction Forum Sponsored by Active Autowerke

Forced Induction Forum Sponsored by Active Autowerke
Discuss supercharging, turbocharging and even nitrous and water injection here.
Sponsored by Active Autowerke

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-19-2010, 11:14 PM   #61
02PRUV
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,785
My Ride: E46 M3 Turbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by weatetheacid88 View Post
so perhaps act your age instead of like a 4 yr old? sounds like a bunch of prissy *****es

you keep starting **** and youre trying to convince people of something that is not possible without the dude himself coming and defending his work...so

quit hanging on merts nuts dude or go get his vbox **** but dont be saying hes done this or that just go get evidence...and if you say you dont have time then wtf are you on here for? use the time wisely perhaps?

it does feel good tho to be young with boosted 46's up the woz
Get off the acid dude Come back when your off the drugs and have half a clue
__________________
Rides:

BMW E46 M3 Turbo 570rwhp @18psi (old setup)
BMW E46 M3 LSX 427ci 800hp N/A
Ultima GTR LSX 440ci 800hp N/A
VY SS Ute Turbo 1004.6rwhp @ 28psi E85
Ford Escort Mk2 2JZGTE 600rwhp @14 psi
04 Yamaha R1 154.3rwhp
ISUZU FZR550 tilt tray (GT35 Turbo)
02PRUV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2010, 03:55 PM   #62
Matt Q
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,197
My Ride: Jezebel
Hmmm. Ever stop to think that having respect on this forum isn't importan to mert? I've chatted to him and he seems cool enough. Just sick of being ripped and bashed here. If we drop the "us and them" stance and treat the BMW community like a community Perhaps we will see more posts from other modders out there. For example there is a 1000hp e46 m3 (this is conservative btw) running on a 3.5l built stroker engine, charger and gas. It is in Johannesburg here in south africa and was built by rob green Motorsport. The owner is a very wealthy collector / car fan and neither he nor rob green have any interest in forums.... Still trying to track him down to get a pic or better a clip. Like 02pruv says... There are some amazing boosted cars out there which most if us will never see
__________________


M3. ONLY BETTER
Matt Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2010, 04:50 PM   #63
Dreikraft
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Alaska :(
Posts: 688
My Ride: slow m3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Q View Post
Hmmm. Ever stop to think that having respect on this forum isn't importan to mert? I've chatted to him and he seems cool enough. Just sick of being ripped and bashed here. If we drop the "us and them" stance and treat the BMW community like a community Perhaps we will see more posts from other modders out there. For example there is a 1000hp e46 m3 (this is conservative btw) running on a 3.5l built stroker engine, charger and gas. It is in Johannesburg here in south africa and was built by rob green Motorsport. The owner is a very wealthy collector / car fan and neither he nor rob green have any interest in forums.... Still trying to track him down to get a pic or better a clip. Like 02pruv says... There are some amazing boosted cars out there which most if us will never see
i think mert would have liked some clout on the forums, unfortunately there were more variables at play than just whether or not mert's tt m3 was legitimate or not. i noticed mert has a bit of an an ego (perhaps rightly so) and a serious language barrier, put that together with a whole forum of english speaking skeptics and you have a recipe for some serious brow beating.
keep us posted on that 1k hp beast. i didn't know you could go any further than 3.4 on the s54.... that 3.5 must heat up quick!
Dreikraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2010, 04:51 PM   #64
nickr519
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Jolla, CA
Posts: 419
My Ride: ZX-10R, Ram 2500
I think the reason for the possible distrust of mert is his past... I wouldn't necessarily term our stance towards mert "us and them," at least not arbitrarily so. It seems reasonably skeptical to want solid proof of claims from someone who had some shady sales practices, and posted sketchy dyno graphs. We're all car fanatics, we want to see the things that people put tons of time+money into post up some cold hard results. Now an older guy who has no time or interest for forums and isn't making claims on them, that's a different story entirely.
__________________
'99 323i - totalled
'87 supra - sold
'90 300zx - sold
'01 GSX-R600 - sold
'97 Ram 2500
'06 ZX-10R

Last edited by nickr519; 06-22-2010 at 02:58 AM. Reason: gm derp
nickr519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2010, 04:56 AM   #65
Matt Q
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,197
My Ride: Jezebel
Point taken.... however in his defense... Living in South Africa I have had to become accustomed to dealing with RADICALLY different cultures (and trust me on this.. the melting pot you have in the US in really nothing compared to the hugely disparate social backgrounds we have here) and some things which one culture might take as the norm would be tantamount to insulting to another. I think it's a healthy combo between actual events (he must/does take some of the blame), language as mentioned above, and cultural differences which have lead to major unnecessary conflicts.

My point is we should look for common ground, put all the wasted bad vibes behind us and gain the benefit of sharing each other's knowledge, experience and passion.
__________________


M3. ONLY BETTER
Matt Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2010, 10:14 PM   #66
RACEMX-M3
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,165
My Ride: M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02PRUV View Post

As far as the 60-130 thing goes maybe I got the wrong impression of how you guys were doing it. Because others made it sound like they were starting at 0 and driving through the 60-130 to get the time. I don't know if that's what they were doing or not and you do it right but maybe some better explanation from you or even a video of the whole thing would give a better picture of what's going on.
Just wanted to offer a couple of quick comments on the 60-130 times. The standard that most follow is what's posted on 6speedonline, which is the run must be logged by a vbox (performance box), must not exceed > 3% downslope from start to finish and must be verified by Divexxtreme or one of the other mods in that section. There are no requirements to begin or end at a given speed as long as you have a log that includes 60-130.

Beginning at 0 or at a low speed and accelerating through the run is going to result in a slower - not faster time. Why? Heat. If you take off from a dig and go wot all you're doing is uneccesarily building heat in the turbo, motor and increasing air intake temps and making less power. All of my best times have come starting at the 50-55 mph range and my best time on drag radials was surprisingly only about 1/10 of a second faster than running 19" Toyo street tires.
__________________
RACEMX-M3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 04:38 AM   #67
Matt Q
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,197
My Ride: Jezebel
Question I've had knocking around my head for a while for the Vbox fraternity out there...

Why 60-130MPH? (That's around 95 - 210km\h) I'm the last person to complain about speeding but I just find it weird that the gold standard is starting just under the speed limit and ending WAY above it and is a situation which will only really crop up on a long quiet highway stretch.. it doesn't feel like a "real world" situation to me.

So my question is this. Why not 0-100mph (0-160km/h) times? Surely this would give a more accurate comparison of stock to modified and would also involve more driver skill keeping traction all the way through the gears??

Just a question, an answer would really be appreciated from someone with more knowledge than me. Also.. since my car is built for mountain passes and tracking, the 60-130 doesn't seem to apply as much as the acceleration from standstill or nearly stopped..
__________________


M3. ONLY BETTER
Matt Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 04:48 AM   #68
M3onTwomps
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: location location
Posts: 284
My Ride: '02 SG/IR SMG M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Q View Post
Question I've had knocking around my head for a while for the Vbox fraternity out there...

Why 60-130MPH? (That's around 95 - 210km\h) I'm the last person to complain about speeding but I just find it weird that the gold standard is starting just under the speed limit and ending WAY above it and is a situation which will only really crop up on a long quiet highway stretch.. it doesn't feel like a "real world" situation to me.

So my question is this. Why not 0-100mph (0-160km/h) times? Surely this would give a more accurate comparison of stock to modified and would also involve more driver skill keeping traction all the way through the gears??

Just a question, an answer would really be appreciated from someone with more knowledge than me. Also.. since my car is built for mountain passes and tracking, the 60-130 doesn't seem to apply as much as the acceleration from standstill or nearly stopped..
I think it's something that has come from the really high hp cars that were doing a lot of roll-on street racing. Cars that had trouble with traction from a dig and wanted to compare what they could do with traction. Just my best guess. And, in most cases, it's easier to do a high-speed run on the highway than it is to do a run from a dig, stoplight to stoplight.
__________________
'02 SG/IR SMG M3
M3onTwomps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 05:09 AM   #69
SPDu4ea
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 1,118
My Ride: .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Q View Post
Why 60-130MPH? (That's around 95 - 210km\h) I'm the last person to complain about speeding but I just find it weird that the gold standard is starting just under the speed limit and ending WAY above it and is a situation which will only really crop up on a long quiet highway stretch.. it doesn't feel like a "real world" situation to me.
60-130 is meant to simulate a highway roll race. As for why start at 60mph:

*often people driving at 70mph freeways inadvertently slowed down while matching each other's speed & waiting for the 3 honks
*sometimes freeways were busier than ideal so doing a rolling roadblock at ~60mph would build up enough of a gap to race
*Most modern sports cars' gear ratios have been designed to reach 60mph in a minimal amount of shifts for better 0-60 magazine times. So starting at 60mph levels the playing field by ensuring that most cars are at starting out at the beginning of their powerband

Quote:
So my question is this. Why not 0-100mph (0-160km/h) times?
Launching... It's much much much harder on the equipment and can't be done well on street wheels/tires/suspension.
SPDu4ea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 05:49 AM   #70
Matt Q
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,197
My Ride: Jezebel
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPDu4ea View Post

Launching... It's much much much harder on the equipment and can't be done well on street wheels/tires/suspension.
That makes sense... thanks dude
__________________


M3. ONLY BETTER
Matt Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 01:56 PM   #71
mertd
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 92
My Ride: M3_M3_M5
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkboy316 View Post



funkygirl, it was funny haaa.

now its my time to laugh and see you as an idiottt.

funkgirl, those whp turned into the fastest 60-130 mph M3. next time think twice before making a joke.
mertd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 02:26 PM   #72
///M3-QTR
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Qatar
Posts: 813
My Ride: IR M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by mertd View Post
funkygirl, it was funny haaa.

now its my time to laugh and see you as an idiottt.

funkgirl, those whp turned into the fastest 60-130 mph M3. next time think twice before making a joke.
Lol that was funny

can't take a joke can you ? chill out dude ....
__________________
///M3-QTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 02:31 PM   #73
battaM3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: levittown Pa
Posts: 406
My Ride: 2003 m3
Dude is a ****ing joke. He just needs to go away for good.
battaM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 03:18 PM   #74
funkboy316
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: san antonio texas
Posts: 1,268
My Ride: 2003 M3 vert
__________________

2003 TiAg HPF stage 2.5 SMG M3 vert
funkboy316 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 03:59 PM   #75
bobm3
Senior Eurowerkz Member
 
bobm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: bklyn
Posts: 12,511
My Ride: 2003m3smg
thanks for postingthis information because

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPDu4ea View Post
60-130 is meant to simulate a highway roll race. As for why start at 60mph:

*often people driving at 70mph freeways inadvertently slowed down while matching each other's speed & waiting for the 3 honks
*sometimes freeways were busier than ideal so doing a rolling roadblock at ~60mph would build up enough of a gap to race
*Most modern sports cars' gear ratios have been designed to reach 60mph in a minimal amount of shifts for better 0-60 magazine times. So starting at 60mph levels the playing field by ensuring that most cars are at starting out at the beginning of their powerband


Launching... It's much much much harder on the equipment and can't be done well on street wheels/tires/suspension.
i did not know that .....very interesting information...thanks for posting it.....
bob
__________________
bobm3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 04:06 PM   #76
mtran850
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: pensacola, fl
Posts: 892
My Ride: C6 Z06
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkboy316 View Post
__________________
mtran850 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2010, 04:43 PM   #77
mikem7709
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 517
My Ride: Z4M Roadster
You should change the Neon lights backdrop to a Kebab shop.
__________________
STOCK
mikem7709 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2010, 02:31 AM   #78
MaverickM3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Savannah/L.A.
Posts: 58
My Ride: gets badge
OK guys, this is just some thing I noticed in Mert's vids. In both the videos it does not appear that they(Mert/Bike) are really racing. Just Mert stomping the gas b4 the bike is ready to go. the reason why I say this is because I ride a crotch rocket and neither myself or anyone who I have ever ridden will sit like that when trying to really accelerate especially to try and keep up with something that has that much power.. Just saying...
I'm not trying to discredit Mert or attack him in anyway. This is just One of the things I noticed in the vids.

P.S. Mert, Keep posting some new stuff bro. GoodLuck with the M3
__________________
MaverickM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use