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Old 09-25-2010, 04:51 AM   #1
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grammar question

whats the rule for the suffix "able" and verbs that end in "e?"

for example, i noticed verbs that end in e may or may not drop the e when able is the suffix.

to enforce --> enforceable
to excuse --> excusable
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Good question. I don't think there is a rule, any more than there is a rule for ie vs ei. (The "i before e" thing is just a helpful device to get you to the most likely answer.) To construct the proper form using -able, best just to look up the spelling.
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vowel suffix?
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whats the rule for the suffix "able" and verbs that end in "e?"

for example, i noticed verbs that end in e may or may not drop the e when able is the suffix.

to enforce --> enforceable
to excuse --> excusable
not exactly sure on the actual rule but i have a theory?

in your example enforceable.... dropping the e on enforceable will make it enforcable where the c becomes a hard c like a k as opposed to a soft c... just something i noticed. it might be a case of the e is retained so that the original pronunciation stays..
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My grammar is pretty bad and i could really use some help with this sentence. This is for my cover letter so please only serious answers. thank you


I can also appreciate the great environment you have setup at xxxxx; a job is more than work it, responsibility and duty; coworkers are more than team members, they are family.
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as with most english rules, there are unfortunately exceptions.

generally you drop the e because you already have a vowel at the end, but you need to keep it for words where the vowel makes the c or g soft sounding. so any word where the c is pronounced as a s or a g like a j. you can see it at work in your example words.
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My grammar is pretty bad and i could really use some help with this sentence. This is for my cover letter so please only serious answers. thank you


I can also appreciate the great environment you have setup at xxxxx; a job is more than work it, responsibility and duty; coworkers are more than team members, they are family.
Ok, I'll take the bait and assume this is a serious request. I have two simple rules for business writing: keep it simple, and always used active voice instead of passive voice. If you aren't familiar with the difference, read this:

https://writing.wisc.edu/Handbook/CCS_activevoice.html

In your example, active/passive is not an issue. But simplifying your sentences may help:

"I also appreciate the great environment you have at xxxxx. To me, a career is more than work, it is responsibility and duty. And co-workers are more than team members, they are family."
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My grammar is pretty bad and i could really use some help with this sentence. This is for my cover letter so please only serious answers. thank you


I can also appreciate the great environment you have setup at xxxxx; a job is more than work it, responsibility and duty; coworkers are more than team members, they are family.
Try this:

I am also able to appreciate the fantastic environment which is established at [Company]. I firmly believe a job is more than just work; it is a responsibility and a duty we must fulfill. In addition, coworkers are more than just team members; they are our professional families.



Maybe?
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Awesome, that does help a lot. It was a serious question and I appreciate that it was taken as such. Also many thanks for the prompt response.

I will go with a bit of both:
I am also able to appreciate the fantastic environment established at [Company]. I firmly believe a job is more than just work; it is a responsibility and a duty. And co-workers are more than team members, they are family.

Thank you both, it is truly appreciated.
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Awesome, that does help a lot. It was a serious question and I appreciate that it was taken as such. Also many thanks for the prompt response.

I will go with a bit of both:
I am also able to appreciate the fantastic environment established at [Company]. I firmly believe a job is more than just work; it is a responsibility and a duty. And co-workers are more than team members, they are family.

Thank you both, it is truly appreciated.
Maybe it's too late, but I'm not sure I'd go with the "co-workers are family" part. If I were to get that from a job prospect, I'd be a little put off. I work with a lot of business owners, and many (if not most) of them hold to the "work is work, and family is family" mentality. For employers, as soon as they start buying into the "we're a family here" mentality at work, that just opens them up to all kinds of potential liability.
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Maybe it's too late, but I'm not sure I'd go with the "co-workers are family" part. If I were to get that from a job prospect, I'd be a little put off. I work with a lot of business owners, and many (if not most) of them hold to the "work is work, and family is family" mentality. For employers, as soon as they start buying into the "we're a family here" mentality at work, that just opens them up to all kinds of potential liability.
Solid point, and i may avoid it in the future. From company research it seemed to me they would go with it.
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When in doubt with something written professionally I will arrange the sentence in a different manner or choose another word.

According to my old high school English book the rules are as follows.

When the suffixes -ness and -ly are added to a word the spelling of the word is not changed.

Drop the final "e" before a suffix beginning with a vowel.

Keep the final "e" before a suffix beginning with a consonant.

With words ending in "y" preceded by a consonant change the "y" to "i" before any suffix not beginning with "i".

Double the final consonant before a suffix that begins with a vowel if both the following conditions exists: (1) the word has only one syllable or is accented on the last syllable and (2) the word ends in a single consonant preceded by a single vowel.

Warriner's English Grammar and Composition, pp. 640-641.

I am sure there are exceptions.
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