E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Tuning & Tech > Lighting Forum

Lighting Forum
Angel Eyes, DDEs, lighted rings, Clear Turn Signals, LEDs, Xenon, HID, or Bi-Xenon. If it lights up and you want to discuss it, post here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 11 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 06-14-2010, 10:39 AM   #1
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
FXR Projector Retrofit in P46, in 2004 320i

Good morning folks, I'd like to start off with some background information.

The BMW 320i comes with a halogen setup, with no option from the factory to upgrade to xenon unless you upgrade your entire car. (325, 330 etc)

OEM Halogen:



The owner upgraded to a unit called the Depo Projector46. This unit "looks" wonderful from the outside, but sitting behind the light you'll quickly notice it's poor projector qaulity. TBH, this isn't any better than the halogen setup. The projector outright blows. It does come with AE's, and does look better than halogen units!

This is the depo p46 (as it's commonly called):




Here are some comparison shots for the projector vs an OEM projector, in terms of cutoff, spread, hotspots etc:

P46


Another p46


OEM



This now leads me to the projector retrofit!

What we're going to do is replace the crappy projector in the depo unit with what's called an FXR projector. This is a replica of the infiniti FX projector, known as one of the best of the best. This is a BIXENON unit, so we'll have to code the car accordingly (for stalk control, example: pull back activates inner halogen, push forward activates BIXENON, as compared to non bixenon setup it would just activate the same inner halogen).

The units just arrived today from Mike at F1 Autohaus. This is one of the only places I have found to buy this, not affliated in anyway, just great service and great price. F1Autohaus





You can see the replica E46 shroud in the background, to help keep it looking clean etc!


A picture of the FXR cutoff:



snitz's retro, and here is a gorgeous flicker pic:



That is all for now, we embark on the journey sooner or later. Thanks for reading this huge ass post! I will update later!

Ask any questions, I'll try and help as best I can. Projected HID is the best for driving, hands down! And properly done with GOOD projectors makes it even better.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Ads by Google

Guests, get your FREE E46Fanatics.com membership to remove this ad.
Old 06-14-2010, 10:39 AM   #2
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
Here is a writeup by volksfragen, it was done on his car and we did the work together so far:

Hey guys,

This is my first DIY/Retrofit Guide.
It wont be step by step but it will cover the general way things were done in this retrofit.

Id first like to thank Mike from F1Autohaus for hooking myself and Snowcatxx87 up with these FX-R's. They are great Projectors. Quality is superb!

F1Autohaus- http://f1autohaus.myshopify.com/

Also a big shout out to Snowcatxx87 for helping and telling me how to do stuff the right way

First off I am going to start with the products I purchased for this retrofit, then tools needed, then the steps taken so far!

Parts Needed


For this specific Retrofit, I am using Projector46's as my base Headlamp housing.

Projector46's
Umnitza: http://umnitza.com/umnitza-projector...on-p-1099.html

FX-R Hybrid Projectors
F1Autohaus: http://f1autohaus.myshopify.com/prod...rid-projectors

E46 Projector Shrouds
F1Autohaus: http://f1autohaus.myshopify.com/products/e46-shrouds


Tools Needed

Various screw drivers

Dremel with various attachments

Drill with various sized bits

Files, Sandpaper, ect.

(Anything you think you'll need for cleaning up dremel cuts)

JB Weld
Available at walmart, Canadian Tire (In Canada :cool), and probably many other hardware stores.

Various different screws/bolts
I ended up getting 8-32x2.5inch bolts to mount the P46's to the halogen housing and 10x1.5inch metal screws to mount the FX-R's into the P46 mounting holes.

Rust-Oleum High Heat Satin Black Rattle Paint
I decided to paint everything matte black to go with the theme of my car.
This paint said not to use primer, So everything was sanded and cleaned, then painted.


To start here is a pic of my workspace:



Disassemble Headlight Housing

I did not to a write up on how to disassemble the P46's completely, and after some quick searching I could not find one. But honestly If you cant figure it out, I don't think you should be trying this DIY :confused
All I can say is take it slow and look at everything and how it works and slowly disassemble everything.


Modifications for FX-R Mounting

The first part I tackled was modifying the P46 Headlight assembly and FX-R Projector.

Shown in the picture below you can see what I had to cut off for the FX-R to fit into the P46 projector housing:



Once that was cut, I had to drill 4 new holes in the FX-R's for them to screw into the P46 projector mounts. In the following pictures the unmodified Projector is on the left, and the one I've modified is on the right. I also had to dremel out some of the lip on the projector so the screw would fit. (Original Mounting holes in white, New ones in red):




Once the holes were created and everything dremeled out, it mounted flush, and all I had to do was screw it in!



Next was to modify the Shroud ordered from F1Autohaus to fit in the P46 headlight assembly. I basically had to cut off all the chrome flange all the way back to the lipped part, as you can see by the following pictures. the first one is how I purchased them, the second one is after I dremeled most of the shroud off. I also had to cut a flat section off the top so it would fit in the P46 headlight assembly (shown by the red arrow)




I then went to fit the newly modified shroud, and It would not go in far enough to the assembly to look good over the projector lens. I came to the realization that it was the 4 plastic tabs in the assembly that needed to be trimmed down. I trimmed a bit off so it fit nicely over the projector lens. The first picture is the tabs trimmed and the second one is the shroud and projector test fitted.




Now that completes the retrofit for the FX-R into the P46 headlight assembly. I was first done here and thought to myself, well I still have another projector, why not use it!? So next I will show you what I did to get the P46, to work in the Halogen (Hi Beam) spot.


Mounting The P46 Projector Into Halogen Housing

First step for the Hi Beam projector retrofit was to remove the old halogen bulb mount by dremeling it off. I slowly trimmed it down so the projector sat the correct depth in the bowl where I needed it so the shroud would be flush with the top of the bowl:



Next the P46 projector had to be trimmed off in order to fit into the halogen bowl. the red lines are how it looked before trimming. and the white arrows point to the new drilled holes.



In order to secure the P46 Projectors to the Halogen bowl, I set the projector in the bowl exactly where I wanted it, and marked the 4 holes through the new holes drilled in the projector.



In the following pictures, you can see how the P46 projector gets mounted into the bowl.




I always hated the Depo logo on the P46 projector shroud so **** it, I dremeled it off and sanded it down smooth, and surprise, no more DEPO text



In this picture you can see how the P46 shroud sits flush with the top of the halogen bowl.



That is all for the P46 Projector in the halogen bowl retrofit.


Final Fixup before Paint

Now that is basically it for the retrofit. but during the project so far many thing broke. I was surprised at how crappy the P46 headlight assembly was. The plastic had cracked in a few places due to minimal force. I would expect a little more quality out of an after market part...

So out came the JB weld to fix the cracks:




Paint Time!

Like stated early, this Hi Temp satin black paint asked for no primer. So we sanded all the pieces down, and did 9 very THIN coats to cover it very evenly and they turned out sexy:




Final Test Fit

Here are a few pictures of the final test fit before paint.






and here's our cars watching us work! (eww my OEM halogens look gross)



Thats all for now...

This is all I have done so far, I will post updates and such as I get them done. please feel free to ask any questions!
Thanks guys!

Last edited by snowcatxx87; 06-16-2010 at 12:23 PM.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 10:39 AM   #3
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI














Cutoff/Color without bulb spacer: (note, not using the correct d2s bulbs, but a shaved h7 rebased - proper bulbs being shipped)






Flicker... Hmm



Two HID's on:



Cutoff from ONLYpassenger FXR:



FXR shutter up:



FXR Shutter up AND inner:


Test fit of lense:


Towards the end of the night, so much playing with accessory power - this needed to be done, haha!


Update!

Both sides completed!





Driverside cutoff level:



MAJOR UPDATE!


Another update. The 320i was too slow for the owner, so he sold and got an e46 M. He's had it for one day, and we worked in the garage for 6+ hours. We moved the lights into the M! Direct swap. We even got autoleveling to work.

After some programming, turning off the corner lights, daytime running light disable, fogs allowed to be on with highbeam, and bixenon + halogen inner (we need this for the quad projector)....






Last edited by snowcatxx87; 07-09-2010 at 10:00 AM.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 10:56 AM   #4
tesko.pk
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Calgary
Posts: 330
My Ride: 2003 530i
Nice, looking forward to reading more. Does your retrofit require the use of any of your P46 parts?
tesko.pk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 04:43 PM   #5
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
Quote:
Originally Posted by tesko.pk View Post
Nice, looking forward to reading more. Does your retrofit require the use of any of your P46 parts?
This is not in my car, I'm helping volksfragen on projecttechnik. I was scat19 on there, but I have been banned.

Any other questions just PM me, I am also in the same city as you
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 09:00 PM   #6
Bandersnatch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Johns Creek, GA
Posts: 244
My Ride: 2002 330 CiC
Snowcat, I know you've been a strong critic of the P46's. In your opinion, is the FXR version enough of an improvement to overcome your concerns?

Or do you still recommend retrofitting OEM xenons?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCJodon View Post

ZOMG HALP! *click*

oh hai, i can haz part numbro for florr matz? k thanxz.
Bandersnatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 09:25 PM   #7
jclip
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Founder of the uber-rare body color roof club
Posts: 822
My Ride: 06 m3, 01 325
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandersnatch View Post
Snowcat, I know you've been a strong critic of the P46's. In your opinion, is the FXR version enough of an improvement to overcome your concerns?

Or do you still recommend retrofitting OEM xenons?

I just retrofitted the FXR into my OEM Xenons. The OEM projectores are awfull compared to the FXR's.
jclip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2010, 02:02 AM   #8
snitzl3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,505
My Ride: e60 LCI
Send a message via AIM to snitzl3
looking forward to following your progress
__________________
snitzl3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2010, 11:44 AM   #9
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandersnatch View Post
Snowcat, I know you've been a strong critic of the P46's. In your opinion, is the FXR version enough of an improvement to overcome your concerns?

Or do you still recommend retrofitting OEM xenons?
Haha... yeah, I love them P46's

FXR are better than OEM, but my lights are adaptive (they swivel when I turn), which I love and I'd lose that if I did a retro on my car. FXR>OEM>*

Quote:
Originally Posted by snitzl3 View Post
looking forward to following your progress
Thanks man, we're getting there. The hardest part is modifiying the cutoff on the P46 projector and moving that to the inner halogen area.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 01:40 AM   #10
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
update

Last edited by snowcatxx87; 06-16-2010 at 12:33 PM.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 12:33 PM   #11
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
update with write up!
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 04:23 PM   #12
daedalus34r
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 520
My Ride: 2004 BMW 330i
wow nice diy writeup, very clean craftsmanship and install.
daedalus34r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2010, 10:32 PM   #13
snitzl3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,505
My Ride: e60 LCI
Send a message via AIM to snitzl3
updates?
__________________
snitzl3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2010, 05:02 AM   #14
TerraPhantm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mountain Top
Posts: 5,942
My Ride: 2005 M3 Coupe
What do you think the end cost will be? Can you retain bixenon functionality? I'd love to increase my lighting even more (although w/ the bixenons+halogen highs, my current setup is probably the brightest I've seen so far)

Last edited by TerraPhantm; 06-21-2010 at 05:04 AM.
TerraPhantm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2010, 11:04 AM   #15
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
End cost is looking at around 180 CANADIAN.

The FXR is a great projector. I have pictures to upload tonight, had a busy weekend and didn't get around to it. (hiking trips)

We're enabling all the lights as well, and man, this is mega bright. Firstly the cutoff is cleaner than OEM, but the inner xenon with a removed cutoff is just insane.

Pics will be uploaded in 8 or so hours!
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 07:46 PM   #16
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
MUCH Needed passenger update!
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 08:09 PM   #17
snitzl3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,505
My Ride: e60 LCI
Send a message via AIM to snitzl3
nice, its looking awesome so far!! dude i wish you wouldn't have done the quad....cause i have my old p46 projectors and my old e46 bixenon projectors laying around doing nothing, and its giving me ideas ......how sick would it be to have quad bi-xenons....lows, highs, extra highs, ÜBER HIGHS !!!
__________________
snitzl3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2010, 09:43 PM   #18
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
The guy was like, I want OEM lights P46 blow - I said wait, lets try a retro. He said ok. On the way here I said, lets move the p46 to the inner and it just kept on going LOL!

Quads are awesome, and it LOOKs awesome. You def have the parts so do it up man!

I'm glad I convinced him to push the inner projector forward more, to sit flush with the bowl, it makes it look better than being sunken in.

The other side is DONE and awaiting bumper modifications before it all goes backtogether.
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 04:53 AM   #19
TerraPhantm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mountain Top
Posts: 5,942
My Ride: 2005 M3 Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowcatxx87 View Post
The guy was like, I want OEM lights P46 blow - I said wait, lets try a retro. He said ok. On the way here I said, lets move the p46 to the inner and it just kept on going LOL!

Quads are awesome, and it LOOKs awesome. You def have the parts so do it up man!

I'm glad I convinced him to push the inner projector forward more, to sit flush with the bowl, it makes it look better than being sunken in.

The other side is DONE and awaiting bumper modifications before it all goes backtogether.
Damn I want to do this now... FX-R for the outer beam, OEM projectors for the inner beams... all 4 lights w/ all shutters open w/ highbeam. That would probably be ridiculously bright (but amazing at the same time ).

Would that "additional xenon retrofit" option under SSS allow me to use HIDs w/ the inner bulbs without having flickering issues?
TerraPhantm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2010, 10:15 AM   #20
snowcatxx87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,458
My Ride: 04 330CI
^ Not sure if they ever had a HID option for the inner from factory? Doubt it. We don't get flickering problems on the inner...
snowcatxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is ON





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2011 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use